Have you ever wondered how Social Media Examiner started?

Do you want to know the strategy behind this large online publishing platform?

For this episode of the Social Media Marketing podcast I’ll share how we built Social Media Examiner into what it is today.

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Social Media Marketing Podcast w/ Michael Stelzner

The Social Media Marketing podcast is a show from Social Media Examiner.

It’s designed to help busy marketers and business owners discover what works with social media marketing.

The show format is on-demand talk radio (also known as podcasting).

In this episode you’ll discover the business strategy behind Social Media Examiner, how we built a larger following and how it has been monetized over the years.

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Online Publishing

Social Media Examiner back in 2009

In the beginning, I gave it 3 years. First of all, it was a great experiment. I didn’t even know if someone like me, who knew absolutely nothing about social media, could even start a blog and become a leader in this space. I actually call Social Media Examiner an online magazine.

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Social Media Examiner’s official announcement of its launch back in 2009.

In 2008/2009, when I was exploring this idea, I did notice that not a lot of people were talking about the “how” of social media. It was more about “What’s wrong with social media?” or “Why should I consider social media?” It was the “how” stuff that was really popular.

One of the first things I noticed was that the articles detailing the how-to stuff were going crazy-viral on social.

You’ll hear two examples of articles that I wrote for Copyblogger and Marketing Profs. Those articles turned out to be two of the most popular articles written on those sites.

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The first article I wrote for Copyblogger.

It was the response to those two articles that drove me to start Social Media Examiner almost 5 years ago to the day. Little did I know then that a million+ people a month would consume our content today. It’s hard to believe that it’s been 5 years.

Listen to the show to find out the type of approach I took when it came to writing the articles for Copyblogger and Marketing Profs.

Where the idea for Social Media Examiner came from

It all started when I contacted Ann Handley, chief content officer at Marketing Profs, to ask if she wanted to connect on LinkedIn. Her response was, “Are you on Facebook?” At that time I thought Facebook was just for college students. This was probably in 2008 or early 2009.

So I opened a Facebook account, and started to notice that there was a whole new community of people, not just students, who were having a great time on there. This opened my eyes to what could possibly happen. It was where it all started, I guess.

Every idea has a genesis point, if you will, and that genesis moment was when Ann said, “How about Facebook?”

Listen to the show to discover how the name Social Media Examiner came about.

The business strategy behind growing Social Media Examiner

Before the launch of Social Media Examiner, I put together an online event under my White Paper Source brand. I called the event Social Media Success Summit. This was to see if a segment of my White Paper Source audience would be interested in social. This month is actually our 6th annual Social Media Success Summit.

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This is the ad for the first Social Media Success Summit.

The success of this first summit made me decide to run the idea of Social Media Examiner by several of the presenters.

The first summit included Mari SmithDenise Wakeman and Chris Garrett, who all helped me put on this online conference.

The idea behind Social Media Examiner was for me to write one article a week. Then I would recruit the others mentioned above to write one article a week. So the plan was to have a spread and hopefully be able to publish on the site three times a week.

This group originally did not think it was a good idea. They felt that too many people were already writing about the topic and they weren’t sure that the world had room for another blog on social media.

Listen to the show to find out what eventually spurred the launch of Social Media Examiner and kept people coming back for more. 

Advice to bloggers who want to build a larger following

First you have to take the time to build great relationships and make sure anything you do with anyone is a win all around.

I spend a lot of time building relationships and giving without asking for anything in return. That’s what relationships are about. When you help people become superstars, they become friends forever.

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Building great relationships is a win for everyone.

Another component to success is to grow an email list. There are 290,000 people who get a daily email from us and we add around 1,000 more each day.

The point is to have a strategy where you can feed your audience daily, because they will never forget you when you are coming to their inbox every day.

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Our email subscribers receive a newsletter from us every day.

On the content side of things, you attract the right people with the right kind of content.

At Social Media Examiner, we focus a lot on how-to, success stories, research and weekly industry news wrap-ups. The idea here is that we want a marketer in our target audience to say, “Why should I worry about going to any other blog when everything I need is at Social Media Examiner?” That is what we’re attempting to do.

Listen to the show to find out what Social Media Examiner does every single day to maintain its quality and editorial integrity.

How Social Media Examiner has been monetized over the years

We did not have advertising on Social Media Examiner until this year, 2014. Now, we only have two little ads on the sidebar. All of the other ads on the site are for our own things. Monetization really began with the summits.

Following the success of the first Social Media Success Summit, we started doing three other summits per year. As we grew, we realized that creating three online events a year was a lot of work. So we started focusing entirely on the biggest one, which is the Social Media Success Summit.

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One of the summits was our Facebook Success Summit.

You’ll hear about which company approached us to advertise in our newsletter, and why I was willing to work with them.

To have ads in our newsletter was a little less stressful than having them all over our blog. You have to remember that people who have opted into your newsletter are basically giving you permission to send them something to their inbox every single day.

Another source of our revenue is our physical conference, Social Media Marketing World. I would say that it’s the biggest portion of revenue for us.

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Social Media Marketing World is huge for us in terms of revenue.

Listen to the show to learn how I incorporated my win-win philosophy into monetizing Social Media Examiner.

What we learned from one of our bigger failures

I have been an entrepreneur for 18 years and I want people to understand that I have failed my way to success.

I noticed about 3 years ago that we were all becoming too reliant on Facebook and that could become a problem if Facebook ever decided to change. Well, they did change, and those who had built really big communities on Facebook were now wondering how to best handle it.

So we decided to build our own social media network on Social Media Examiner, called the Networking Clubs. This was one of our more costly experiments.

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We built a community called the Networking Clubs for our readers.

It involved a series of different technologies that allowed people to interact with each other in forums and in groups set up for different kinds of interests. It was going really well until slowly but surely it started being taken over by spammers.

Ultimately, we made the decision to shut down the Networking Clubs and move everything over to LinkedIn. We changed the name to the Social Media Marketing Networking Club. It’s since grown to be twice as big as it was before.

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The Networking Clubs was moved over to LinkedIn.

Listen to the show to find out what it takes to build a social networking site from the ground up. 

What impact this podcast has had on Social Media Examiner

The podcast has done amazing things for us. We are typically in the top 5 in the Marketing category and in the top 25 of the Business category on iTunes.

Our podcast is an integral part of our brand.

Our podcast is an integral part of our brand.

In the beginning, the podcast was supposed to be an experiment (as everything I do was and is) to see whether it could be a promotional tool for Social Media Marketing World. Of course it turned out to be much more than that. Now the podcast is its own little entity and is instrumental in everything we do.

While blogging is essential, podcasting helps us reach a new audience. I’ve learned that people who listen to podcasts don’t necessarily read blogs. So I would say that the podcast is essential too.

Listen to the show to find out how each integral part of the business helps grow the Social Media Examiner brand. 

How our physical conference, Social Media Marketing World, has impacted our brand

This conference has taken our brand to an entirely new level because it has brought something online into physical form. I know how much social media people love to communicate with one another. So I wanted to create an environment that is conducive to the kinds of interactions that social media people love.

Watch this quick video for a recap of our 2014 event.

From previous experiences of attending conferences, meeting people face-to-face and the stronger relationships that came with it, I just knew that if I could bring together thousands of people, the outcome of this could be tremendous. This is indeed what happened, and the conference has now grown significantly.

Listen to the show to discover how Social Media Marketing World has taken our business to an entirely new level. 

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Listen to Mike Stelzner share lessons learned since founding Social Media Examiner 5 years ago.

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  • You have an amazing story Michael. We wish you many more years of successful growth. – Michael

  • Michael, thanks so much! 🙂

  • Mike, I’ve been following you from the beginning and you’re just amazing! Thank you for the great work you’ve been doing from the beginning. It’s been of huge inspiration for us!

  • Early follower and long time fan. Thanks Michael.

  • Thanks much Joe! 🙂

  • Appreciate that very much Benet!

  • Hi Michael,
    A BIG CONGRATS at this Happy occasion!
    You All Are Rockign!
    Keep Rocking
    Keep Up The Good Work
    All Good Wishes
    Ariel and Fly

  • RMRStyle

    Michael – for me this was a great post as it brought a lot of things together. I’ve watched you grow over the years and for me – the insights are gold because I’m replicating them in the fashion industry. In fact my first conference is in May of 2015 – and I’m running it because of the points you just mentioned above…..although I won’t have access to the USS Midway! – Best, Antonio

  • Will Carlson

    Congratulations on 5 years! I’m working with a movement of professionals dedicated to reinvention and think you’ve created the model to follow. Thanks for the great content and inspiration!

  • Glauber Couto

    Congratulations for your blog @mikestelzner:disqus !! Thanks for sharing this amazing content through this time.

  • Thanks Glauber!

  • My pleasure Will 🙂

  • Cool Antonio. You’ll have to come to San Diego for Social Media Marketing World 2015 next April. You won’t be disappointed.

  • Thanks Ariel!

  • Hi Mike, I’d love to hear the kids adventures story too and how your success compares on a totally different subject 🙂

  • Michael Procopio

    Thank you for sharing, this is one of the most educational posts I have read.

  • Hey Linda – We sunset that project at the end of Aug.

  • Thanks Michael

  • Mike — I attended the first Success Summit and I believe you were still back in your white paper days as that’s what you talked about. My, how things have changed. I’m glad that you summarize your podcasts in writing. i can read much faster than I can listen. I think podcasts are great for people who commute to work by car, bus or train. But I’m a city dweller so the written word is much more efficient.

    I want to congratulate you on your tremendous success over these past five years. I learn so much from Social Media Examiner. It’s must reading for me.Best wishes for your continued success.

  • harpreetkaur

    Your post great i like this post. your post is proving knowledge. this post very full of marketing and business man………………………………

  • dywrite

    I have no idea how people manage to have time to listen to podcasts or read blogs. I just cannot free up time from work and client interaction, especially for real-time audio.
    I do tap into Media Examiner when a FB post piques my interest, but, just like I’m waiting patiently (OK, impatiently) for teleportation, I know there are other ways to squeeze the information down and slide it into my brain. I founded a magazine in the mid-90s and our slogan was “knowledge, not information.” I still believe that, so if you can synthesize your “curated” content and get it to me in some palatable form, I’m ready!

  • Thanks for your comment. People listen to podcasts on their smart phones when they are driving, walking, at the gym and during other idle moments

  • Thanks for your comment. People listen to podcasts on their smart phones when they are driving, walking, at the gym and during other idle moments

  • Mike, it’s truly an honor and a privilege to be a part of your successful journey. You’ve helped my business grow exponentially in many ways, too. I am eternally grateful for our friendship.

  • Thanks Jennette for following us so long and for your kind words 🙂

  • Aw thanks so much Mari. It’s been a real privilege to work together and here’s to many more years 🙂

  • Great interview Erik. And congrats on your success Mike! Happy to have been along for most of the ride. Thanks so much for your “unsoclicited advice” to start podcasting. It has been a huge gift for my business. Keep giving and rockin it!

  • Awesome Jeff on the podcast and thanks for your kind words

  • Awesome Jeff on the podcast and thanks for your kind words

  • Awesome Jeff on the podcast and thanks for your kind words

  • Mike, as someone who has followed you ever since the beginnings of Social Media Examiner, and through whom I’ve “met” so many of the movers and shakers in the industry, it’s great to see the story of Social Media Examiner told. You’ve built your reputation on providing great value, and that alone is what stands the test of time, even as platforms come and go. Kudos on this great milestone.

  • Oh no, I’m sorry to hear this. It has been a terrific project for parents and grandparents.

  • Thanks so much Elizabeth

  • Film Academy

    Brilliant podcast… here’s to the next 5 years!

  • Cheval John

    This was a great insight into the growth of Social Media Examiner. Really loved the turtle reference because many think that they need to grow fast in order to succeed. Everyone do need to build relationships first and be a giver before asking for a favor. Really not expecting anything in return. Keep up the great work.

  • Thanks 🙂

  • Thanks Cheval 🙂

  • Cheval John

    You are welcome, Mr. Stelzner. Hope you have a great week.

  • Michael, so great to hear where it all started. Congrats on all your success!

  • Happy Fifth Birthday Michael and everyone at Social Media Examiner!

  • Thanks much Steve

  • Appreciate that Keith.

  • Nicky Dowling

    As a photographer who knew nothing about social media for business, I have found just listening to your podcasts incredibly valuable. I have grown my fan page from 31 fans in Jan 2014 to 3621 as of today, all thanks in part to Social Media Examiner. Cheers from Nicky (Queensland, Australia)

  • Awesome to hear your story Nicky 🙂

  • Exciting to see your success!


  • Thank you for sharing your story, Michael! You’ve inspired me in many ways over the years and you always deliver top quality. I had no idea that less than 300 or so attended the 2009 Social Media Success Summit – makes me a part of an elite group compared to your current massive following! I previously attended your Copywriting Success Summit and last year, was very much inspired by the 2013 Content Marketing Success Summit. I love that you shared your ‘lessons learned the hard way’ along with your successes – very encouraging to know we have to try and experiment in order to succeed!

  • Thanks Marlene for sticking with me all these years!

  • Thanks Daniel!