Are you considering starting a Facebook group?
To learn how to use a Facebook group to build a loyal community that helps your business, I interview Jared Easley.
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The Social Media Marketing podcast is an on-demand talk radio show from Social Media Examiner. It's designed to help busy marketers and business owners discover what works with social media marketing.
In this episode I interview Jared Easley, host of the Starve the Doubts podcast and co-author of Podcasting Good to Great. He's also co-founder of the Podcast Movement, the industry-leading conference for podcasters.
In this episode Jared will explore how he uses Facebook groups to cultivate an active community of podcasters.
You'll discover the benefits of building a Facebook group, as well as tips for getting started.
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How Jared's podcasting conference got started
In January 2014 Jared and co-founders Dan Franks, Gary Leland and Mitch Todd were at New Media Expo when they overheard several attendees asking why there wasn't a podcast conference. The group realized if they didn't take a step to create something, someone else would. They decided to move forward, even though there were plenty of things that could have prevented them from even getting started.
Jared explains how they reached out to a few people who had put on large events, and asked for their perspective and advice. One person who gave them a lot of feedback was Phillip Taylor, who does a conference for financial bloggers. Armed with information, they turned to Kickstarter to crowdfund the conference.
They just needed a small amount ($11,000) to validate the idea, and they weren't sure if it would take 30 days to raise the money or if they'd even get it at all. They asked the podcast community if they would support the conference, speak at it and share it with their network. A lot of people said yes, Jared shares, “but it's one thing to say yes and it's another thing to vote with your wallet.”
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When the campaign was published, they hit that $11,000 within 9 hours. At the end of the 30 days, they had over three times the amount needed, which was more than enough validation to sell tickets, pursue sponsors and follow through. Six hundred people came to the first Podcast Movement Conference.
Listen to the show to hear more about the Podcast Movement Kickstarter campaign.
Why Jared started a Facebook group
The Podcast Movement created a Facebook page so they could do ads and other promotions leading up to the conference, but they didn't initially have a Facebook group. Although they went to other podcast-focused Facebook groups to spread the word, they had to be careful, because some of the groups had a smart but strict policy on self-promotion.
As soon as the first event was over, there was so much excitement that they realized they needed to create a way for the attendees to continue conversations. That's when Jared and his co-founders started the Facebook group. Not even a year later, the group has 1,600 members and is growing every month.
The group is called Podcast Movement – Past, Present, and Future Attendees, so it's open to all past and potential attendees. This way, anyone who is interested in podcasting can be involved in the community and the conversations.
Listen to the show to learn the original intent of the group.
How the two Facebook communities have helped Jared's business
The Podcast Movement group and page have served two different purposes. The Facebook page has been essential for Facebook ads and for getting the word out to people who might not already know about the conference. The Facebook group has been a great way to communicate with the existing community about not just the conference, but also about podcasting news and information. They also share other meetups and podcast-related events across the country.
The group has also given top-of-mind awareness of their business. Whenever someone gets a notification from a group on Facebook, they see the name of that group.
It's the old “Rule of 7” marketing adage, Jared says. Someone has to hear or see your message at least seven times before they take any kind of action. People who get their notifications constantly see “Podcast Movement” throughout the year, and that's what keeps it on podcasters' minds.
Listen to the show to discover other benefits of having and belonging to a group on Facebook.
How Jared uses the Facebook group
For a Facebook group, especially one that has many members, Jared suggests having more than one admin, like they do. Not everybody can pay attention to the group at all times. When you have a few people in the admin role, everyone's on the same page and can help monitor. There are also better-quality posts and less spam.
People can find the Podcast Movement group in a search on Facebook, but they have to request a membership. Then the admin determines whether you get approved. Most of the time it's a yes, Jared says.
The team constantly looks for appropriate posts to share, curating information that's relevant to the community. They also try to foster relationships in the group, and highlight people in the community who are doing something noteworthy.
Jared discusses their branding for the group, and makes some recommendations. The artwork for their Facebook group is clearly branded as “Podcast Movement” with the hashtag and dates of the event. Have your branding artwork set up, Jared suggests. If you have an announcement, consider including it into your image.
While they do make Podcast Movement Conference announcements, especially as the event is coming up, it's not constant. They post about it perhaps once a week so they don't overwhelm people with stuff that's only related to the event. Also, they share posts from the Podcast Movement Facebook page to the group, so members can reshare it publicly.
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“We are at an organic phase when people are naturally sharing,” Jared explains. “In the beginning, there was a lot of hype right after the event. Then there were less people posting. That's when we had to consciously go in and start conversations.”
Listen to the show to learn about the different types of groups.
The challenges of running a group
While there can be a temptation to over-administer the group, Jared explains, it may or may not be necessary. They try to let people post freely, and if they notice a disturbing pattern, they'll contact that person and say, “Hey, these are the rules and we feel like this particular type of posting is not in line with that.”
Sometimes spammy profiles sneak in and someone will post something that has nothing to do with podcasting at all. In those cases, the post is deleted and the user removed.
If someone crosses the line with a post, Jared won't hesitate to delete it. He'll send a message to the person involved. Depending on how that conversation plays out, they'll determine whether the person needs to be in the group. Jared says they try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but there are some people who are out to cause trouble. If that's the case, they'll remove them.
Listen to the show to hear how Jared deals with community members' conflicts.
Tips for getting a group started
Although Facebook allows you to automatically add people to your group, Jared suggests you resist the urge. People generally don't appreciate it when you just add them to a Facebook group without getting their permission.
Ask people before you add them. Otherwise, just let it grow organically. Put out messages on your own personal timeline that introduce the group. Also, leverage hashtags.
Plus, if you are in the early stages, you can reach out to members directly and encourage them to share.
Finally, have rules in place and make people aware of them.
Listen to the show to discover what types of posts to use for your group.
The Great Suspender is a Google Chrome extension. If you use Google Chrome a lot and jump from tab to tab, you'll notice it can hog resources from your system. The Great Suspender keeps some of those tabs from running; it suspends them.
Set up the Great Suspender with different variables. For example, you can set it to suspend your tabs after about 20 seconds until after about three days. You can specify to not suspend pinned tabs and set it to auto-suspend if you're on battery or on the Internet. (It's kind of like TripMode, discussed in a previous podcast, that manages which programs use your data when you're connected to WiFi.)
Set it as Auto-unsuspend or Click to Unsuspend.
Whether you use Chrome or another browser, remember if you have lots of tabs open, it's data and CPU-intensive. Every now and then, restart your browser and it will definitely speed things up.
The Great Suspender is a free Google Chrome plugin. If anybody has an equivalent in Firefox, please let us know in the comments.
Listen to the show to learn more and let us know how the Great Suspender app works for you.
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Key takeaways mentioned in this episode:
- Join the Podcast Movement – Past, Present, and Future Attendees Facebook group.
- Attend the Podcast Movement conference July 31 through August 2, 2015 in Fort Worth, Texas.
- Listen to Jared's Starve the Doubts podcast.
- Read Podcasting Good to Great.
- Learn more about Podcast Movement co-founders Dan Franks, Gary Leland and Mitch Todd.
- Check out New Media Expo and FinCon.
- Explore the Kickstarter campaign and the Podcast Movement Facebook page.
- Learn about the marketing “Rule of 7.”
- Check out the Great Suspender app and revisit TripMode.
- Read the 2015 Social Media Marketing Industry Report.
- Learn more about the Social Media Marketing Society.
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