Top 10 Small Business Facebook Pages: 2012 Winners!

social media viewpointsSmall businesses can stand out in a big way with Facebook.

If you’re looking for some creative examples of Facebook pages from the small guys, look no further!

More than 1,800 nominations came in from our contest. These represent over 500 small businesses.

Our panel of Facebook experts carefully reviewed the nominees and finalists, analyzing their landing pages, engagement, reader involvement and creative use of promotions (among other things).

None of these businesses have huge budgets, yet they all have achieved amazing success. The following are the winners of Social Media Examiner’s Top 10 Small Business Facebook Pages for 2012:

#1: How to Market Your Horse Business

How to Market Your Horse Business is an award-winning social media marketing company focused on horse businesses and other small businesses.

Fans: 6,628

how to market your horse business

What the judges liked:

  • Amazing engagement
  • Good use of pinning and highlighting
  • Effective use of contests and spotlighting contest entrants
  • Good visual branding with apps and cover photo
  • Answers every post
  • Publishes a good variety of content

#2: Recruit Military

Recruit Military is a military-to-civilian recruiting firm, helping veterans and transitioning military service members and military spouses find civilian jobs, buy businesses and improve their education.

Fans: 42,022

recruit military

What the judges liked:

  • Great use of images and quotes
  • Love the way they are using Facebook events for their job fairs
  • Clever use of “Find a Job Friday”
  • Excellent combination of posts on military facts, pictures and resources

#3: Talking Finger

Talking Finger is a social media marketing company.

Fans: 3,289

talking finger

What the judges liked:

  • Great fan engagement
  • Nice use of apps—especially love the TF Services app
  • Good combination of fun posts and valuable posts on social media
  • Superb visual branding, particularly on apps

#4: Earthegy

Earthegy is retailer of ancient gems and modern jewelry.

Fans: 10,169

earthegy

What the judges liked:

  • Cool use of shopping page
  • Good fan engagement with photos
  • Great use of discount promotion
  • Lots of recommendations
  • Rewards app is a smart way to get continual engagement

#5: The Chicken Chick at Egg Carton Labels by ADozenGirlz

The Chicken Chick at Egg Carton Labels by ADozenGirlz is a retailer of chicken egg carton labels and other chicken-related products.

Fans: 14,376

chicken chick

What the judges liked:

  • Blog app is very well done
  • Great niche site with tons of tips and images
  • Fantastic engagement
  • Good use of contest
  • Good variety of posts demonstrating fun, chicken care, chicken crafts and personality.

#6: PoolSupplyWorld

PoolSupplyWorld is an online retailer of parts and products for swimming pools and spas.

Fans: 53,112

pool supply world

What the judges liked:

  • Great timeline cover photo
  • Coupon option is well done
  • Underwater camera giveaway aligns well with niche
  • Good use of call to action in posts to spark engagement

#7: Social Media Branding with Kim Garst

Social Media Branding with Kim Garst is a social media marketing business.

Fans: 23,001

kim garst

What the judges liked:

  • Great page with good use of photos
  • Engaging posts with good business motivation
  • Excellent visual branding

#8: Legendary Whitetails

Legendary Whitetails is a family-owned business selling unique casual apparel, gifts and gear for whitetail hunters through their catalog and website.

Fans: 677,079

deer gear

What the judges liked:

  • Great cover photo
  • Excellent use of apps
  • 10 Bucks effectively gets more fans with the Reveal tab
  • Fantastic use of photos
  • They get lots of shares because they ask for them

#9: Dog Pack Snacks

Dog Pack Snacks is a producer and retailer for human-grade dog treats.

Fans: 1,732

dog pack snacks

What the judges liked:

  • Great use of photos—especially the Social Media Examiner tribute
  • Dog biscuit app works great
  • Nice-looking storefront and email opt-in
  • Good variety of posts—particularly like the mix of voices between dog and owner

#10: Chocolate for Breakfast

Chocolate for Breakfast is the business page for Sue Ann Gleason, a culinary nutritionist and marketing strategist.

Fans: 9,858

choco for breakfast

What the judges liked:

  • Outstanding engagement on page—over 60% Talking About This
  • Good use of photos
  • Entertaining, educational and inspiring posts—particularly like the use of recipes
  • Good opt-in app

Congratulations to the winners. Be sure to check out these amazing pages!

The Prizes
Each of our winners receives the following:

A free pass to Facebook Success Summit 2012: Each company wins a pass to attend the web’s largest online Facebook marketing conference.
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The badge of distinction: If you’re a winner, you can post the image you see here on your blog or Facebook page and please link back to this page.

A special thanks to our judges—Amy Porterfield, Andrea Vahl and Phyllis Khare (co-authors of Facebook Marketing All-in-One for Dummies) for their participation!

What do you think? Share your questions and comments in the box below.

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  • http://www.2knowmyself.com/ Meka

    677,000?
    that’s a pretty impressive number
    if those people can really utilize those fans they would become millionaires 
    thanks for the interesting post

  • http://www.parmfarm.com/blog1/26-life-changing-transitions/ Amy Parmenter

    Huge congrats to all the winners – but especially proud of my CT friends at Talking Finger.  Love to see people I know being acknowledged for their good work!

    Amy

  • Talking Finger

    We are so very very honored to have been included in the final ten, with so many wonderful pages that were in the original list of 23. There were some awesome pages in the list, and it could have been any one of them. Kudos to all who entered and got to that 23…you rock!
    Congrats to the other 9 winners! I looked through all your pages, and can definitely see why you are here. I am proud to be among such other fantastic pages!!
    Now, thank you so much to our friends, family, fans and all who engage with us. Really, without the support we have, we would be four geeks in an office playing pranks on each other, video gaming, and spending an inordinate amount of time playing on the social networks. 
    THANK YOU, thanks you to all, thanks to the 3 judges who picked us, and thanks to Social Media Examiner for all of the hard work to put a contest like this together.

  • Talking Finger

    Woohoo!!!! Awesome :-)

  • Earthegy (aka Chrisy)

    An incredible honor that wouldn’t be possible at all without my most amazing fans!  Thank you so much!  ~Chrisy Bossie, earthegy

  • Talking Finger

    Congrats :-) Great job!!!

  • PhilMershon

    Congratulations to all of you. You certainly are deserving winners!

  • Liz

    Is there an opportunity to see the list of nominees? Or was it narrowed down during the prelims to the top 25 or 50? Just curious…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.swearingen Ryan Swearingen

    Great picks! However, isn’t the CTA (albeit subtle — “Voting is open”) in the horse marketing biz cover photo technically violating FB’s guidelines? There’s no question it’s solid work, so I’m not looking to criticize, but this particular issue is one I’ve struggled with when looking at cover photo options in marketing brands, so I’d love to hear people’s thoughts.
    Thanks!

  • PhilMershon

    Hi Liz
    We narrowed it down to the top 23. That link is provided above. Thanks

  • PhilMershon

    Thanks Ryan. I don’t think this violates the rule. It’s an announcement and not a direct CTA.

  • http://seanja.info/ Sean Sandy

    This is what happens when you only get 10 entries right? There is no way that purple one beat out any good facebook pages…

  • Tami

    Social Marketers get inspired by the Facebook Page Winners!

  • Nick

    Yeah, technically the CTA violates the 4th rule of facebook cover photos for pages… but I have yet to hear about Facebook enforcing that on a page with fewer than 5 digits of likes.

  • http://newpunishment.com/ Darrin Searancke

    I think you are wrong Mr. Sandy. if you took the time to read the post, you would know these were actually taken from a short list of 24.

  • http://seanja.info/ Sean Sandy

     tl;dr

  • Earthegy (aka Chrisy)

    In the top of the post they said there were 1800 nominations representing over 500 companies (aka facebook pages.)

  • Stanwriter

    Congratulations to the winners. I’m so jealous. I’m a copy and script writer (B2B) and have tried facebook to absolutely no avail. My clients couldn’t care less about facebook, and regard it with suspicion. If I want new clients, I send out an email shot and get substantial amounts of work, immediately. My daughter is a singer and facebook works for her, but, I’m not into social media at all, mainly because things like facebook are such dreadful pieces of software. If I wrote something that bad, I’d deserve to be sacked. Also, I don’t like people very much. But, still, well done to all the winners – for me, it’s like a glimpse into a mad, parallel universe.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kimgarst Kim Garst

    I am at an IBM conference in Orlando and my phone started blowing up with text messages when this went live lol. I would like to thank Social Media Examiner for the awesome opportunity and especially my fan base. You all are why I do what I do!

  • Debbie I

    Thank you so very much for including us in this group of great Facebook Pages.  Congrats to all the pages that were nominated and a “high-five” to all the pages that made the short list.  I can’t wait to see what other great things all of our pages have to offer our respective communities.

  • T. Shays

    Congratulations to all of the winners and everyone who entered. We can learn a lot from these companies, and I especially like how you have highlighted what the judges liked.

  • https://www.facebook.com/WomenSpk Maggie

    I’m confused, though. Facebook guidelines would seem to forbid the use of arrows and “Like Us” calls to action”. Does that not apply to apps?

  • PhilMershon

    Hi Sean,
    As mentioned below, we had over 500 companies nominated. The judges narrowed that list to 23 and selected the top 10 from that list. Because these are all small businesses, the judges evaluated many different things in selecting the winners.

  • PhilMershon

    Hi Stan,
    Not everyone finds Facebook to be valuable for reaching their audience. However, many B2B marketers find it useful for connecting with their audience on a personal level. Consider it as a way to make your brand personable.

  • PhilMershon

    Congrats, Kim!

  • PhilMershon

    Nice job!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.swearingen Ryan Swearingen

    I suppose not. It’s a pretty subtle distinction. I guess I’ve been too literal with this. Facebook says it should not be primarily text, so I’ve tended to err on the side of caution. Thanks!

  • PhilMershon

    Hi Maggie,
    Facebook only forbids those in the cover image, but not on app cover images. Hope that helps.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000778627958 Erik Granato

    Thank you Amy!!! We are stoked! (Erik)

  • Randi Thompson

    Congratulations to the Social Media
    Examiner’s Finalists and the Top 10 FB Small Business Pages. I have been looking at many of the FB Business pages who made the finals and am learning from all of them.
    I am honored to have “How to Market Your Horse Business” included in this list.

    I would like to thank the fans of How to Market Your Horse Business.  (HTMYHB) 
    What can I say, You ROCK!  

    I would also like to thank the Social Media Examiner and Judges,
    Amy Porterfield, Andrea Vahl and Phyllis Khare  for everything that you have done. I am so thankful for this amazing opportunity and wish everyone success and happiness.   ~Randi

  • Talking Finger

    Thanks Amy :-) We appreciate that!!!

  • Talking Finger

    Congrats!!

  • Blake Jamieson

    Honored to have the PoolSupplyWorld page on this list! Thank you so much SME, and all of the fans that support us!

  • http://www.EasyLunchboxes.com/ Kelly Lester

    Congrats everyone! A wonderfully diverse, fun, and creative bunch. Well deserved!

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  • http://www.The-Chicken-Chick.com TheChickenChick

    OMG!! Jumping up and down!  Thank you for recognizing my work. It’s an honor to have been nominated and to have won?!  Woo-hooo!!!

  • http://ImpartialGeek.com David Foster

    Congratulations to ALL the winners!

  • http://www.AndreaVahl.com/ Andrea Vahl

    Congrats Randi!

  • http://www.AndreaVahl.com/ Andrea Vahl

    Congrats!

  • http://www.AndreaVahl.com/ Andrea Vahl

    Great job!

  • http://www.AndreaVahl.com/ Andrea Vahl

    Congrats Kim!  Great page!

  • http://www.AndreaVahl.com/ Andrea Vahl

    Congrats!

  • http://www.AndreaVahl.com/ Andrea Vahl

    Love your Page, Kathy!

  • http://www.The-Chicken-Chick.com TheChickenChick

    Thank you Andrea! It really is an honor and I appreciate the time you and the other judges took to evaluate all of the nominees. Who’d have imagined that I would be in this position 18 months after starting my Facebook page?!  Hard to wrap my head around it. I’m humbled. Thank you!

  • http://www.The-Chicken-Chick.com TheChickenChick

    Talking Finger is in CT? I am too!  Small world.  Congratulations to my fellow CT peeps at Talking Finger!

  • http://www.sociallysorted.com.au/ Donna Moritz

    Congrats Kim – you deserve it. You always give your best content, and love your visual marketing.  Champagne for you!  

  • http://www.sociallysorted.com.au/ Donna Moritz

    Great choices guys!  I gotta say, I do stop and take note whenever Chocolate for Breakfast comes through my feed. Love all of these pages!  

  • http://www.socialbakers.com/blog/806-engage-2012-introducing-the-topics/ Charlie

    I will throw myself in by congratulating the winners. Congratulations!

  • Loren

    Wow! These are awesome! I REALLY need to improve mine! (please don’t look – too embarressed now!).

    Quick question – I saw that the Dog Pack Snacks (loved this one!) had an email opt in. How do you do that in Facebook?

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  • http://twitter.com/LadaHrbacek Lada Hrbacek

    Some really nice pages! :)

  • Earthegy (aka Chrisy)

    They’re probably using an app from their newsletter service provider like Mail Chimp or “Constant Contact.  I have one on my page, and the service you use to write your newsletters provides that app.

  • http://www.masseffect3.net/ Simon Lopez

    Like the article, it humorous and understanding.

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  • http://www.dealsformums.co.uk/ Loren

    Hi Earthegy (and well done!). Thanks for the info. I use constant contact on one of my sites so I’ll take a look about adding an app for subscription via Facebook.

    There’s such great pages here. I had no idea how well they could work. Very excited now and will look at a bit of a redesign, and adding a few apps!

  • Randithompson

    Thank you so much, Andrea. 

  • Randi Thompson

    Thank you, Talking Finger. Congratulations yourself! 

  • Randithompson

    Thank you Ryan.  I did not notice that until you mentioned it.  You are right!  

  • http://www.prosperitycoaching.biz/blog Suzanne

    I love some of these timeline cover photos! I think that the cover photo is THE most important aspect of a facebook page and from the examples given I realize that my photo could be much more creative. Thank you, Suzanne

  • http://twitter.com/Amazon_cz Amazon Cz

    Congratulations. I like it a lot.

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  • Talking Finger

    Hi Kathy, That is awesome! Our little itsy bitsy state is representing :-) I received your Twitter follow and followed back. Let’s stay in touch. And congrats on your inclusion! Great Page, fantastic job!

  • Tina

    how to target the mass market ?? any tips for that ??

  • http://www.facebook.com/SherryCrummy Sherry Crummy-Lawrence

    Congratulations to all the winners! All your had work has paid off, and you are shining examples of how to do Facebook Marketing right. 

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  • Murali Ravikanti

    Congrats for all the winners. You guys have done a great job..

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  • http://www.shane.ly/ Shane Atkins

    All the pages look superb.

  • Barry

    Hello,
    Where do i find TF Services app? And Find a Job Friday?

    i can’t seem to find the apps on their FB pages?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/cheylynne.yurcho Cheylynne Yurcho

    But their content doesn’t get any engagement… Where are the shares and likes? 

  • http://www.launchgrowjoy.com/ Andreea

    These are some great pages! Thanks for sharing. 

  • jpoppert

    Check out Legendary Whitetails if you want some engagement! :)

  • http://www.brookswebdesign.net/ Maria Brooks

    This is a great collection of winners!  Legendary Whitetails and Chocolate for Breakfast are my 2 favorites. Lots can be learned from each one and I’m going to incorporate some of their techniques in FB pages I build for my clients.  

  • http://www.buysocialmediatraffic.com/ Tyson Otto

    Great post William :)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/carmen.johnson.5891 Carmen Johnson

    thanks

  • http://www.pregnancy-symptoms-week-by-week.net/ France Paterson

    Wow, this post is pretty amazing. thank you for the effort. love reading this one.

  • http://www.brazilfifaworldcup2014.net Jerry Maestro

    yeah really. its really pretty and amazing too.

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  • Jack Koltha

    Looks Like DogPackSnacks has been Shut down by Facebook!- So much so for the top awarded pages!
    Quite frankly , it appears that Judges have little knowledge of Facebook Marketing. And, the more surprising point is that  a respected content producer like ‘social media examiner’ let it all go through. Many of the pages have content, apps and strategies that violate Facebook terms and conditions (& BTW Horse Marketing Cover photo is indeed a violation of Facebook T& C). Most of the pages on the winner list have lifted photos and images without proper credits,  which is an intellectual property violation- Even the ‘social media guru’ Kim Garst has displayed photos without proper credits ( ironically one of her status updates is ‘is copying someones content and passing it of as yours ok’ LOL. 

    Did the Judges audit these pages to ensure that the fans are genuine and not fake fans that can be easily purchased for a few dollars. 

  • Jack Koltha

    Another example of poor judgement- Talking Finger ‘A Social Media Marketing Company’s’ Contest violates Facebook’s T&C. See their 2 contest rules:1.”Votes” are counted by the amount of “Likes” each image receives. ” – Facebook clearly states that the ‘Like’ cannot be used for voting. If it could be, many pages would have amassed hundreds of thousands of Fans! 

    2. “Winner will be announced on Monday September 17th on our Facebook Page. “- 

    Facebook contest guidelines say that you cannot announce the winner through any Facebook Native Apps. And, this is one reason 3rd party apps need to be used for running contests and promotions. When Fans want to participate in the contest, they install the app and as part of the installation process they provide their Emails address through Facebook API. And, these email addresses in turn are used to announce the winner

  • http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/ Michael A. Stelzner

    Hey Jack,

    Thanks for your comment.  DogPackSnacks is not shut down as I just visited it.

    The judges are authors a popular book on Facebook, so they do have a lot more knowledge than you give them credit for.

    Regarding your criticisms of some of the winners:

    – What is it about the horse business that you feel violates Facebook T&Cs?
    – How do you know what the sources of the photos are?

    This is a subjective contest.  You are welcome to disagree and even be ultra critical of the winners. But I think your assumption that these are fake pages that were purchased for a few dollars is simply over the top Jack.

    Again, thanks for your comment

     

  • http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/ Michael A. Stelzner

    Jack – I encourage you to reach out the Talking Finger folks with your feedback

  • Jack Koltha

    Hey Michael,
    Thanks for your reply. Writing a book is by no means a singular measure of ones expertise (and the content of the book may in itself have errors). 

    I still cannot see the DogPackSnacks page

    With the photos – If you look at the pages’ status updates, many of the photos used have no credits. They have just been copied from elsewhere and published by the page owners with no credits, which is an ‘intellectual property redistribution’ issue.

    I did not say that the Pages are Fake BUT I am sure you are aware that Fan’s can be purchased for a few hundred dollars. My question was ‘what was the audit process to ensure that the fans were indeed all authentic’

    One of the Facebook’s Cover photo T& C states that ‘it should not have text that can go in the ABout or other sections of the Page’ Also, to me, ‘Voting Now Open’ is a CTA 

     Michael, what did you mean by ‘subjective’ contest. I think when there the such an honored list compiled involving three judges and more importantly organised by social media examiner, there needs to  be thorough due diligence. 

  • Jack Koltha

    Hey Michael,
    How about you/ judges comment on my observation about Contest guideline violation. And, if it is indeed true, then should the page not be removed from your list as it clearly should be disqualified- Is it not your responsibility to correct such issues.

    Readers- What do you think, if a page does not meet Facebooks’ guidelines , should it not be removed from the list and another business presented with the award instead. This would have happened with any other competition including in sports, movies , music etc.

  • http://www.The-Chicken-Chick.com TheChickenChick

    Since you asked what we think…I think you’re investing far too much time trying to drag the winners’ pages through the mud. This was a fun and subjectively judged contest. Nobody was harmed by the results one way or another. The Social Media Examiner could have qualified or disqualified any page they saw fit; it’s their contest and THEIR rules. It is not appropriate to demand anything of them.
    If you would like to host your own Top Ten contest, you are free to do so, but this is not your contest and you don’t have standing to judge the results. It might be a good idea to move on to a more constructive pursuit. This horse has been beaten to death.

  • http://www.AndreaVahl.com/ Andrea Vahl

    Hi Jack – 
    You are correct that writing a book does not measure expertise but the Dummies series has technical editors that check every step in the process.  But as you know, Facebook changes often so a print book about social media is difficult to keep current.  
    The DogPackSnacks Page may have a country restriction on the Page since they are a local business.  There is no way to tell if they from an outside perspective.  If you are located outside of the US, that may be a reason you can’t see the page but I can see the page up right now.

    As far as photo use, photo credit is not always required if you have purchased the right to use the photo but you are correct that the intellectual property issue is a big problem across all social platforms.  To track down what photos have been purchased and which ones may be an issue from all photos on a page is beyond the scope of this contest.  We acknowledge that is is a problem but it is an internet-wide problem that isn’t going to be solved in this contest.  

    Tracking down every fan is also an impossible task.  We cannot see the individual fan profiles of every Fan, as you know.  These pages all have very active fan bases which is an indication that these fans are real.

    The “Voting Now Open” is not a call to action.  It is a statement.  That statement may imply that you should go vote but it does not tell you to go and vote specifically.

    We examined the pages very thoroughly and I stand behind our selection.  We appreciate your feedback on this contest.

  • Jack Koltha

    HI Andrea,
    Thanks. Needless to say that you will need to stand behind your selection as you cannot talk it down or accept that errors were made. 

    But it just goes to show that the audit process was not thorough  – The ‘Talking Finger’s Contest was run during your evaluation period and hence the page should not have passed through the nomination list.

    The right thing to do for a reputed brand like social media examiner is to acknowledge the oversight and make amends to their decision by removing ‘the talking finger’ & any others from their winner list and awarding this to the 11th, /12th /13th ranked business. If you do not do so, you are encouraging rewarding and supporting practices which are in violation of Facebook’s T&C and IP issues in spite  of you being made of aware of these issue- 2 wrongs don’t make a right!. Further you have a large following of readers who will review the winners’ pages and take lessons and tips from them (incl. launching a contest wherein a ‘Like’ button is used for voting). I think you owe it to your readers so that they continue to get correct and accurate content from your brand- 

    Please understand & appreciate that readers throughout the world including myself follow, read and trust what you say and do!

    Image copyright is not a grey area at all- If Page owners have used any images that they did not create or purchase or have an IP ownership, they need the photo/ IP owners’ permission before using them- Simple! I can understand that many small business owners will not understand this but A social media marketing guru not understanding this and publishing them in their status updates and further, judges not taking this into their criteria, is simply encouraging  violation of people’s IP right. What the judges / social media examiner could have done is taken an undertaking from the nominated candidates that image and content are original and/or have the correct IP. And, further the fans on their pages are genuine fans- I think that would ave sufficed and shown the judges and social media examiner as doing the right thing. 
    For a brand like social media examiner to say that IP is a grey area and let’s ignore it, is just not done!
     
    AT the end of the day, if you agree that the contest run by ‘the talking finger’ violates Facebook’s T&C and content/images used by other contestants may have been in violation of IP, and do not correct the situation, then it shows Social Media Examiner in poor light. 

  • Jack Koltha

    Hi Kathy, Since you were one of the winners (My congratulations!), you will definitely not talk this down and will obviously support it- But then, in my view, you have a conflict of interest. 

    I notice that you have published a few images as well on your status updates without any credits, I hope you respect and have the IP rights to publish them- I am sure you will not like it if someone used your IP in their work!

    And BTW, to maker light of IP issues and Facebook T&C when the contest was all about ‘best facebook marketing examples’ is a bit ironical.

  • http://www.The-Chicken-Chick.com TheChickenChick

    Don’t be so quick to assume things, Jack. I don’t support your attack on any of the winners or on The SME’s selection process. As for images on my status updates, none are from uncredited sources that do not belong to me.  Your ‘hope’ for what I ‘respect’ is misplaced and frankly, whether anyone on Facebook uses un-credited images is none of your concern unless the images belong to you.

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  • http://www.psdfileconversions.com/ Charlene James

    congrats I hope im not late :(

  • earthegy

    Thanks Loren!  I use Constant Contact myself, and the newsletter sign up app on my page is from them.  They definitely have one!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000778627958 Erik Granato

    Jack and everyone else. This is Erik, Principal of Talking Finger. The contest you are speaking of was ran using a 3rd party app from TabFusion. Which is approved by FB. Why are you saying otherwise? Did you not check your facts before you spoke?  TF has a long history of doing the right thing, this comment is completely libelous.  Please, publicly explain yourself because this is defaming my name and my company. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000778627958 Erik Granato

    Thanks you! I replied to his comments. Completely false! We use TabFusion, a 3rd party FB approved app. 
    BTW, love reading your emails that I subscribe to…keep up the awesome work. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000778627958 Erik Granato

    Thanks Kathy!

  • Talking Finger

    Thanks Tyson :-)

  • Talking Finger

    Jack, 

    I think you have things a bit wrong…the contest was help on a 3rd party application. The “likes” that were used are not part of Facebook “Likes”. In other words, you can’t post an image on Facebook and the have people vote on the image to get a winner by the most likes. The Likes you are looking at are Likes that occurred on the application itself, not Facebook Likes. So your first part is incorrect.

    Seondly, the winner was not announced on facebook. They were sent a private message to let them know that they won. After they had accepted through private message, they then post on our Wall to thank us. If you need to see, check out our post “announcing the winner” which occurs here:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=468131123217411&set=a.150144705016056.33599.132014403495753&type=1

    Note we posted :”Winner has been announced” and no name. Once the winner posted up he was out in the open. You read too deep into Winner to be announced.

    I suggest before you start raking people ever coals, and drag through the mud, you take a moment to understand some of the finer points of the Terms Of Service for Facebook and dig a bit deeper on the actual execution of something. I sincerely hope you can feel the need to apologize, because you unfairly ripped us apart when in fact we are within the guidelines of the contests, having been doing this for ourselves and clients for quote a few years now :-)

    Thanks!

    Bill DeRosa,

    Principal, TF

  • Jack

    Hey Erik,Thanks for your response. In my humble opinion:
    1. Facebook does not ‘approve’ business applications. It only removes them if they view them as against their policies/guidelines-  I think you should check that.

    2. Please dont hide behind the excuse of using a 3rd party app- One of the terms and conditions on Your Contest Page said ” “Votes” are counted by the amount of “Likes” each image receives” As far as I know , Facebook states that – ‘You must not use Facebook features or functionality, such as the Like button, as a voting mechanism for a promotion.’  It appears that you have removed the contest and The T&C from your page- Why dont you put it back on as it was and let the readers and the team at Social Media Examiner decide this (For your easy reference please see Clause V. , Section E- Promotions under the ‘Facebook Pages Terms’ at Facebook [dot]com/page_guidelines.php#promotionsguidelines). 

    Look forward to your thoughts

  • Jack

    Hi Andrea,
    I am looking forward to your comments- Since Erik from Talking Finger has come out firing all guns, I think you and other authors at Social Media Examiner should review the pages and see if my points are valid. 

  • Jacrog43

    HI Erik,
    I have responded to your points below- I hope you will agree that your FAcebook contest violates Facebook’s Terms and conditions. Just to reiterate
    1. Facebook does not ‘approve’ business applications. It only removes them if they view them as against their policies/guidelines-  I think you should check that.2. Please dont hide behind the excuse of using a 3rd party app- One of the terms and conditions on Your Contest Page said ” “Votes” are counted by the amount of “Likes” each image receives” As far as I know , Facebook states that – ‘You must not use Facebook features or functionality, such as the Like button, as a voting mechanism for a promotion.’  It appears that you have removed the contest and The T&C from your page- Why dont you put it back on as it was and let the readers and the team at Social Media Examiner decide this (For your easy reference please see Clause V. , Section E- Promotions under the ‘Facebook Pages Terms’ at Facebook [dot]com/page_guidelines.php#promotionsguidelines). @andreavahl:disqus @mikestelzner:disqus – I look forward to hearing your  thoughts as well. Please take my comments objectively.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000778627958 Erik Granato

    My 2 thoughts are this and I am only stating them to defend our position and not satisfy your ego.

    1) We followed the rules per FB.(Your words…Please dont hide behind the excuse of using a 3rd party app-) We are not hiding or doing ANYTHING out of the terms and conditions. So the fact that we are following the rules make you angry for some reason. 
    2) You have 2 different names that you are posting under, that I have seen so far. You are anonymous essentially. Therefore you don’t exist and neither does this conversation. Good luck in life, consider this conversation over. I will no longer carry this conversation on with someone who acts anonymously and misreads the facts. The public will agree. Mr. and Mrs Public…(For transparency reasons…here you go)We DIDN’T remove the contest from our page, we have 20+ tabs and FB only allows so many (12 total) to be seen by the public at once. We rotate them around. 
    Here are the 2 images that I screen grabbed to show how many tabs we have. http://www.flickr.com/photos/57423264@N03/8035869790/ And here is the contest screen grab. It was to long to the 3 blue dots represent the images I cut out.http://www.flickr.com/photos/57423264@N03/8035891718/

  • Talking Finger

    Jack, you are incorrect…and I adopt know why it is taking so long for my post to be approved, but I addressed all of your itms: I think you have things a bit wrong…the contest was help on a 3rd party application. The “likes” that were used are not part of Facebook “Likes”. In other words, you can’t post an image on Facebook and the have people vote on the image to get a winner by the most likes. The Likes you are looking at are Likes that occurred on the application itself, not Facebook Likes. So your first part is incorrect.

    Seondly, the winner was not announced on facebook. They were sent a private message to let them know that they won. After they had accepted through private message, they then post on our Wall to thank us. If you need to see, check out our post “announcing the winner” which occurs here:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=468131123217411&set=a.150144705016056.33599.132014403495753&type=1

    Note we posted :”Winner has been announced” and no name. Once the winner posted up he was out in the open. 

    I suggest before you start raking people ever coals, and drag through the mud, you take a moment to understand some of the finer points of the Terms Of Service for Facebook and dig a bit deeper on the actual execution of something. I sincerely hope you can feel the need to apologize, because you unfairly ripped us apart when in fact we are within the guidelines of the contests, having been doing this for ourselves and clients for quote a few years now :-)

    Thanks!

    Bill DeRosa,

    Principal, TF

  • Talking Finger

    Jack you are wrong. This is Bill DeRosa, the other half of TF.The breakdown:I think you have things a bit wrong…the contest was held on a 3rd party application. The “likes” that were used are not part of Facebook “Likes”. In other words, you can’t post an image on Facebook and the have people vote on the image to get a winner by the most likes. The Likes you are looking at are Likes that occurred on the application itself, not Facebook Likes. So your first part is incorrect.
    Seondly, the winner was not announced on facebook. They were sent a private message to let them know that they won. After they had accepted through private message, they then post on our Wall to thank us. If you need to see, check out our post “announcing the winner” which occurs here: (link isn’t allowed I guess? Anyway we posted FIRST: Winner has been chosen!” then the winner came and announced himself.Note we posted :”Winner has been announced” and no name. Once the winner posted up he was out in the open. 
    I suggest before you start raking people ever coals, and drag through the mud, you take a moment to understand some of the finer points of the Terms Of Service for Facebook and dig a bit deeper on the actual execution of something. I sincerely hope you can feel the need to apologize, because you unfairly ripped us apart when in fact we are within the guidelines of the contests, having been doing this for ourselves and clients for quote a few years now :-)
    Please apologize anytime you seem fit :-) I am requesting you do so at every post that mentions us.
    Thanks!
    Bill DeRosa,Principal, TF

  • Talking Finger

    Firing guns? You have blasted not only our page, but several others. You have no idea what you are speaking of since you are thinking Likes on Facebook are the same as Likes on a 3rd party app…you incorrectly said we announced the winner on our page when the winner was first notified, THEN once he accepted we announced him. (By the way, that is the finer point of “announcing”) 

    As well, you made a fake profile here so you can blast people…I searched for you on LinkedIn, FB, and here…and you’ve no profiles anywhere. So your anonymity is suspect to me. I have a feeling you are a jealous of the winners or have some other motive. Even on Disqus (the commenting platform) you have no other comments anywhere but here.

    So please, apologize to us in the same way you blasted us…in EVERY Post you made so we don’t miss any. You took tookt time complaining, now make some time for apologizing.

  • Talking Finger

    Hello, the app they are speaking is called “What we do”. Hope that helps :-)

  • Talking Finger

    Email me, I can help you understand this bill@talkingfinger.com

    We have several slideshares that are not appropriate to share here since I do not want this to be a commercial for our services. I’d be happy to send you links via email. Thanks!

  • Talking Finger

    Wrong. See the comments I made below your other fake profile :-) All of our contests are within the rules of Facebook…in fact we are adamant about following rule son Facebook, having written several articles about contests, businesses using personal profiles instead of Pages, etc….see any one of my comments below or above. Apology will be accepted and encouraged. Those who take the time to blast others should be humble enough to take the time to apologize as well.

  • Talking Finger

    Connecticut! Woop Woop!

  • Talking Finger

    Thanks Phil :-)

  • Talking Finger

    Good job showing it…Im waiting for Jack to apologize….in the same earnest way he blasted TF. EVery post, not just one. He took the time to write stories 4 or 5 times, I want 4 or 5 apologies.

  • Jack

    The Likes are the Facebook Likes and they have been used for voting-  A ‘Like’ irrespective of whether it is being used in a Facebook Native tab (e.g. Photo Tab) or inside an ‘App’ , cannot be used for voting in promotion- period! Bring up your page and show it publicly- Or I have the screenshots from your contest and I can publish them here- Please dont give an excuse of a 3rd party app- You are the social media experts and should know better. Once you bring up the app, I can show it to you that the ‘Like’ button there is the Facebook ‘Like’ code and you are using it for voting!

  • Jack

    Thanks heaps guys!- Why dont you publish the original contest alongwith the your terms and conditions page again- So that everyone can view it and then make up their own mind. Or, I had taken the screenshots of your contest and T& C page when your contest was on and I can publish it here if there is a feature to support this. You can perhaps then comment on it

    So:1. I quote from your Terms and Conditions “”Votes” (sic) are counted by the amount of “Likes” each image receives. NOTE: Do not uncheck the box next to “Post this Pin to my Timeline” otherwise it won’t get shared on your profile and you won’t get any votes!:)” ….. “Your Pin with the highest amount of likes/votes is the one we will count”This clearly states that “Likes” are being used “Votes” for your promotion! Further, if one clicks on any photo uploaded by fans participating in the contest, a ‘Like’ button whose look and feel has been modified appears (But it is actually using the ‘Like’ code from Facebook [dot]com/dialog/oauth)- So in essence the Like button is being used for voting. And, you cannot use Like for voting in a promotion- neither in an app nor in a Facebook Native tab- Period!2. Your T&C from the Page further states that “Winner will be announced on Monday September 17th on our Facebook Page:So there is no mention of the winner being first announced privately. Also, i now cannot see the posts that you had published on 16th Sep announcing the winner (I have the screenshot)- In these posts, you have announced the winner and the winner had replied asking for the voucher. You then mentioned that you were at a conference and could not push the voucher through.

    3. You did not correct yourself about your statement ” The app was approved by Facebook”- Did you read this up and do you agree that the business app is not approved by Facebook  and only ‘dis approved’ if they do not follow Facebook’s T&C

    Kindly correct that statement

    4. You have also not released Facebook from your contest as is the guideline from Facebook and I quote from Facebook’s contest guidleines “Promotions on Facebook must include the following:
    a.    A complete release of Facebook by each entrant or participant.
    b.    Acknowledgment that the promotion is in no way sponsored, endorsed or administered by, or associated with, Facebook.
    c.    Disclosure that the participant is providing information to [disclose recipient(s) of information] and not to Facebook.
    Happy to hear your comments and lets keep this objective! 

  • Jack Koltha

    See my response above- The ‘Like’ button has been used for voting – The modified :Like button uses the Like Plugin code.

  • Jack Koltha

    Hi there,
    Here is what I suggest to lay this issue to rest – Display your contest & page again to the team at Social Media Examiner- If they in their neutral and professional opinion think that your contest and page are in compliance with Facebook guidelines, then let them say so in these posts and I will accept their decision and move on. Please do not modify your page or contest in any way- and to reiterate, I have the screenshots which I can send over to the Social Media Examiner team- Fair?

  • http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/ Michael A. Stelzner

    Congratulations to all the winners!  We stand behind our decisions.

    Also, I have decided to shut down discussions.  If you have any questions, email mike at socialmediaexaminer.com

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