by 
Do people review your business online?
Ever receive negative or fraudulent reviews?
To discover what to do when you receive a review that's not what you were expecting, I interview Dan Lemin.
More About This Show
The Social Media Marketing podcast is an on-demand talk radio show from Social Media Examiner. It's designed to help busy marketers and business owners discover what works with social media marketing.
In this episode I interview Daniel Lemin, the founder of One Good Brand. He is also a strategist for Convince & Convert, and author of the brand-new book, Manipurated.
Dan will explore online reviews and how to deal with bad and fraudulent reviews.
You'll discover why online reviews are so important.
Share your feedback, read the show notes and get the links mentioned in this episode below.
Listen Now
Where to subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube Music | YouTube | Amazon Music | RSS
Here are some of the things you'll discover in this show:
Online Reviews
Dan's backstory
Dan started his online career with Google's corporate marketing team and saw the emergence of black hat SEO (search engine optimization). He explains the distinction between white hat (good) and black hat (bad) SEO, and talks about link farms as an example of black hat tactics.
Google came to love Yelp's fresh content and Dan says that's how the rating and review platforms attracted shadowy SEO characters. They saw the opportunity to continue “tricking” consumers through new platforms.
Listen to the show to discover why the owners of small- and medium-sized businesses need to know the dynamics of the SEO industry.
Ready to Supercharge Your Marketing Strategy?
Get expert training and an unbeatable conference experience when you attend Social Media Marketing World—from your friends at Social Media Examiner.
Broaden your reach, skyrocket your engagement, and grow your sales. Become the marketing hero your company or clients need!
🔥 As a valued reader, you can save $730 on an All-Access ticket if you act now. Sale Ends Tuesday! 🔥
GET THE DETAILSWhy reviews are important
Dan shares that nearly 90% of consumers say they trust reviews as much as they trust their friends and family. Since so many people make decisions based on online reviews, the vast majority of a business's prospective customers are filtering through review sites.
Since Google favors this type of content, reviews are a new SEO tactic, and that's why site owners are adding some type of rating and review component. For instance, a lot of hospitality businesses like Starwood Hotels have added reviews to their websites.
He says one review will not necessarily make or break a business, but cautions that the presence of the review industry can make or break small businesses, because they don't have all the tools and techniques a large company like Chipotle might have.
When asked which review sites matter most, Dan explains his research found it really depends on the business category. For example, Gondola Adventures in Newport Beach, which is in a super-specialized industry, says Yelp matters, but TripAdvisor is even more important.
Dan says companies can track reviews manually by going to each review site, but it's very time-consuming. To help, there's a whole cottage industry of companies such as ReviewTrackers and ReviewPush that do review tracking for businesses.
Listen to the show to learn how much traffic Yelp gets from Google.
The purpose of fake reviews
Dan shares that there are different layers to the purpose of fake reviews.
He first discusses fake positive reviews and says that several weeks ago, Amazon filed an unprecedented lawsuit against 1,100 people. They accused anonymous people on Fiverr of selling reviews for profit on Amazon.
For his book, Dan interviewed a young lady who writes reviews for a living, and says it's very difficult to distinguish her reviews from legitimate ones.
Dan discusses fake reviews that are created to injure the reputation of a business. Dan also shares an example of another type of fake review, a scam that targeted wedding photographers in the Bay Area.
After responding to what looked like a legitimate inquiry from their websites, the photographers would get an email saying “I decided not to hire you” or “we changed the date.” The email would go on to say, “I work in the online reputation business, and I heard there's a scam going around with some photographers: people were threatening them with bad reviews. If that ever happens to you, I know how to get rid of it.”
A few weeks later, the photographer would receive or be threatened with a fake review, so they would they call this person to make it go away–for a price.
Listen to the show to hear about other scenarios Dan doesn't necessarily believe to be true.
How to deal with suspicious reviews
The first thing Dan tells businesses is “don't panic” because a negative review, even if it's fake, will not take your business down. He says what you can do about a bad or fraudulent review depends on the platform.
Dan shares that while all review sites have tools available for remediation, they (particularly Yelp) are bad at fulfilling the promise of help. His book, Manipurated, explains how to get the attention of the people who address those help requests and how to make the most of your interaction with them.
Dan tells listeners why he believes you should make your presence known every time a review happens, even if you think it's negative. He cautions that one of the hardest lessons people learn is how to be angry in the context of a public forum.
Dan talks about how Wade Lombard, who runs a moving company in Austin, Texas, developed a good response method called, “stop, drop and roll.” Dan recommends business owners use this method in heated moments.
He believes how you respond says a lot to a potential customer about what they might expect from you as a business owner.
Listen to the show to discover what happened after someone left a 1-star review for my second book, Launch.
Curious About How to Use AI?
Our newest show, AI Explored, might be just what you're looking for. It's for marketers, creators, and entrepreneurs who want to understand how to use AI in their business.
It's hosted by Michael Stelzner and explores this exciting new frontier in easy-to-understand terms.
Pull up your favorite podcast app and search for AI Explored. Or click the button below for more information.
Discovery of the Week
Do you ever go to online websites and see countdown clocks? After listening to a podcast that shared a number of split tests on how countdown timers affected conversion, I started experimenting and discovered they do make a difference.
After doing a lot of research I found this cool website called CountdownMonkey.com, which allows you to create different kinds of timers (scoreboard, rolling, etc.). You can even control the special effects, colors and font sizes.
Countdown Monkey comes with a WordPress short code, so you can easily add it into your sidebar widgets and sales pages. Another cool feature lets you hide the counter once the sale or event time is up. For example, if you set a sale to end at midnight, the counter will automatically disappear from your page at that time.
As of this recording, Countdown Monkey is $79/year. The sense of urgency readers get from the countdown clock when a sale is coming to an end may lead to extra sales, so it may pay for itself. To see it in action, take a look at the Social Media Marketing World page.
Check it out at CountdownMonkey.com.
Listen to the show to learn more and let us know how Countdown Monkey works for you.
Other Show Mentions
Today’s show is sponsored by Social Media Marketing World 2016.
You can now sign up for Social Media Marketing World 2016. It’s the world’s largest social media marketing conference. By attending, you’ll make connections with 100+ of the world’s top social media pros (plus 3,000 of your peers) and you’ll discover amazing ideas that’ll transform your social media marketing.
See what attendees experienced at our 2015 conference.
The event takes place in San Diego, California on April 17, 18 and 19, 2016.
The networking is going to be off the hook. We have our opening-night party on an aircraft carrier, the USS Midway.
If you are on the fence about attending, the main reason to attend is to make connections with people who are just like you. These relationships could lead to future opportunities for your business. You'll have a chance to shake hands with people like Guy Kawasaki, Mari Smith, Chris Brogan, Jay Baer, Ann Handley, Michael Hyatt, Michael Port, Amy Porterfield, Joe Pulizzi, Darren Rowse, Mark Schaefer, Mitch Joel and the list goes on and on. We have an incredible line-up of the top social media pros in the world.
Hundreds of people have already purchased their tickets and have committed to coming to this conference. If you've heard about Social Media Marketing World, and always wanted to go and connect with the leading thought leaders and soak in a lot of knowledge, visit SMMW16.com. Check it out, if only to see how we do our countdown timer. Scroll down and you'll see it in the sidebar or check it out on the registration page.
We have the best pricing you will ever find going on right now. Click here to check out the speakers and the agenda and grab your early bird discount.
Listen to the show!
Key takeaways mentioned in this episode:
- Connect with Dan on his website.
- Read Manipurated.
- Check out One Good Brand and Convince & Convert.
- Learn more about black hat SEOÂ and white hat SEO.
- Explore Google's concept of freshness.
- Check out Yelp and TripAdvisor.
- Read why customers trust online reviews.
- Explore reviews on Gondola Adventures and Starwood Hotels.
- Check out ReviewTrackers and ReviewPush.
- Read about Amazon's lawsuit regarding people being paid for fake reviews on Fiverr.
- Explore Wade Lombard‘s “stop, drop and roll” concept for responding to reviews.
- Check out Countdown Monkey.
- Follow me, subscribe and listen to the Social Media Examiner weekly blabs.
- Learn more about the 2016 Social Media Marketing World.
- Read the 2015 Social Media Marketing Industry Report.
Help Us Spread the Word!
Please let your Twitter followers know about this podcast. Simply click here now to post a tweet.
If you enjoyed this episode of the Social Media Marketing podcast, please head over to iTunes, leave a rating, write a review and subscribe. And if you listen on Stitcher, please click here to rate and review this show.
Ways to subscribe to the Social Media Marketing podcast:
- Click here to subscribe via iTunes.
- Click here to subscribe via RSS (non-iTunes feed).
- You can also subscribe via Stitcher.
What do you think? What are your thoughts on fraudulent online reviews? Please leave your comments below.
Black hat SEO photo and Fake review photo from Shutterstock.
Discover Proven Marketing Strategies and Tips
Want to go even deeper with your marketing? Check out the Social Media Marketing Podcast! Publishing weekly since 2012, the Social Media Marketing Podcast helps you navigate the constantly changing marketing jungle, with expert interviews from marketing pros.
But don’t let the name fool you. This show is about a lot more than just social media marketing. With over 600 episodes and millions of downloads each year, this show has been a trusted source for marketers for well over a decade.
