Zen Cart (10 posts)

Topic tags: e-commerce, sales
  • I am investigating various e-commerce platforms for a clients website.  Has anyone used Zen-cart?  Do you have other suggestions and a link to those sites to investigate?

    If you have used zen cart, does it stay as a sub of your existing website or does it take you off-site?

  • @deereinhardt

    We inherited a zen cart site once. I didn’t work on it, but my developer said that he found it very frustrating to work with, and you didn’t get the control over the pages and products the way he liked.

    Currently we most often use Shopp for WordPress for simple stores.

  • @deereinhardt I don’t have vast experience with online shopping carts but I am getting ready to startup a new venture for online shopping, checkout, and digital delivery of some special content. I may have to write the whole thing myself because I can’t find anything that allows me the branding experience and flexibility that I need.

    Let me know what you decide. 

  • Have you checked out WePay? I have used it and although it does take you offsite, I have been pleased with it. @deereinhardt

  • @deereinhardt I am a web developer who has used Zen Cart. Frustrating. I think it is way powerful, but unless you use it regularly and become a habituated expert it is very hard to just pick up and run with. In theory it is simple but in my experience it just is not.

    In answer to your question… Zen Cart includes functionality for ‘Pages’ and you can (theoretically) copy in HTML or use the (should be) WYSYWIG editor to set up pages for things like About, Policies, Our Story… I worked on sites that did it this way and other sites that created an HTML ‘over site’ that fed in to the Zen Cart for the store. All of them were on the same server. Even integrated one with Wordpress.

    In its defense, it is super powerful – it copes with tax codes and shipping rates and international currencies and… but all of this makes it seem pretty cumbersome to ‘just’ do anything.

  • My online shop is based on ZenCart.  I think ZenCart is pretty powerful, but it can be frustrating.  (I’m fairly comfortable with techy stuff, but I’m not a web developer, so have periodically had to get help from my fiance, who’s in I.T.; comes in handy. :) )

    One of the things about ZenCart that I’ve found frustrating is that, with different contributors at various coding skill levels, it’s not always an intuitive process to do or find something, and at times it’s downright inconsistent.  (For instance, sometimes your setting selections are Yes/No, other times it’s On/Off, and then again other times, it’s 0, 1, 2.)

    Lately what I find most frustrating is the upgrades — about the time you get things tweaked and set to your liking, here comes another upgrade. 

    I have a few friends who also use Zencart.  We occasionally talk about searching out other, better options, but as of yet no one’s found anything that’s superior enough to justify the switch.

  • Personally I suggest Magento to people. There are good plug-ins available and I’ve found it to be quite flexible. Never used ZenCart, how does it compare?

  • @deereinhardt I have not used zencart but have used Wp e-commerce with the gold cart plugin and the storefrontthemes as the skin.  I really liked them both.  They both integrate within the site – amybrandenburg.com and visionsofcreation.com are the examples. It also depends heavily on your shopping cart needs before deciding which to use.  If you don’t have much, then go with simple.  My clients wanted to manage their own inventory and don’t do a lot of heavy selling online but wanted to offer the capability.  I’ve heard rave reviews about shopify but haven’t used it.  

    Suggestion – there is a great Wordpress group on Linkedin.  They discuss this heavily and it is discussed by other excellent, experienced Wordpress developers if that is the platform you are using. 

  • My understanding of Magento (through my fiance, who uses it where he works) is that even the free version is a bit cleaner than ZenCart, presumably because all of the Magento products (including pay-to-use versions) were developed by the same professionals.

    The shipping module is more refined than ZenCart in that you can specify not only how much the item weighs (which you can do with ZC), but Magento also provides the means to indicate how many like items can fit in the same box, so as to allow for a more intelligent process of calculating combined shipping. (For me, that element is pretty much a non-issue, as 95% of what I sell has a max quantity of 1.)

    If I recall correctly, I think he also mentioned that the concept of ZenCart’s templates is a bit easier to understand than Magento’s.  And they recently encountered one quirk to Magento’s system in how it manages (doesn’t manage?) canceled orders.  (They recently had a customer place an order, pay, and then cancel the order as the customer realized it needed the product in a different.  The gal in bookkeeping issued a refund, but now they can’t void the order in the Magento system, so the Magento year-end reporting will be overstating sales.)

  • Thank you to everyone for your responses.  I will have to investigate all of the options you suggested.  If anyone else has something that can be integrated with WorkPress, bring it on.


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