Wordpress Question (24 posts)

  • OK, WP rockstars…since I am getting ready to work up a new site in WP, here’s a basic question: If I create a page that’s a sub-page of one of my main nav “buckets”– let’s say ‘Events’ is the name- I assume I can create multiple sub-pages beneath it for individual events.

    Now, in WP can I create a sub-page of that initial sub page? Basically I want to be sure I can group all pages related to one specific event together, so it’s easier to know where things are and what has to be updated if a change is made.

    Having them grouped should make this visible on a site map, right?

  • “I assume I can create multiple sub-pages beneath it for individual events.”
    Correct.

    “Now, in WP can I create a sub-page of that initial sub page?”
    Yes, as many as you wish.

    “Having them grouped should make this visible on a site map, right?”
    Yes.

    You can also create Categories and create unlimited Sub-Categories too and use Posts instead of pages. This has several benefits:

    1. Posts are syndicated (pinged) when published. Better SEO.
    2. Categories have their own page template. (ex: http://mywebsite.com/category/events/)
    3. Posts are archived automatically and you can use the Calendar and Recent Posts, Recent Comments features.
    4. The Blog Category features of WP keep things organized. You can apply a Post to more than one Category.

    Pages are just plain static but you can have comments on them too.

    Hope this helps.

  • @joanmuschampfagnaninn  Sounds like what you’re trying to accomplish is better done with posts. – You can link to the latest posts or to a category of posts on the front page.

    Too many pages make to a confusing and bulky navigation. (Google doesn’t open your drop down menu when it crawls a site either. So those pages which are on a drop down menu don’t get visited by Google.)

    Posts are the way to go!

  • @joanmuschampfagnani

    Apart from the great suggestions above regarding categorizing, you could also possibly use tags.

    If there is a particular subject that you know you might have to be editing (every post to do with that subject), then create a tag specific to that subject only and attach it to the relevant posts.When you need to do the editing, click on the tag (in your side bar or wherever it is on your site) and only those relevant posts will show ready for editing.

  • @johnkelly @amyhallbiz @camwilkes Thank you, would you still follow the “post” strategy even if you were creating special landing pages you weren’t showing in navigation?

    Do you have any recommendations for some good training resources for WP? I want to rebuild my website but clearly don’t know the particular subtleties. Training needs to be soemthing I can take in small breaks, and preferably not too expensive or free

  • @joanmuschampfagnani

    Personally I would. If you need the post to act on it’s own as a landing page from external sites or internal page, I would just use the permalink for that particular post.

    In regards to Wordpress training, you could take a look at some of the offers on Appsumo: http://www.appsumo.com/search/?q=wordpress

    If considering buying something through Appsumo, be sure to take a look at the reviews beforehand.

  • @amyhallbiz…  I think you meant to say this differently.

    You said “Google doesn’t open your drop down menu when it crawls a site either. So those pages which are on a drop down menu don’t get visited by Google”???

    I feel I need to clarify this correctly. Yes, a navigation dropdown menu doesn’t “open” by Google when it crawls a site but that does NOT mean the pages will not be crawled. They certainly can be. Search engine spiders “crawl” server files and the content withing them when permitted. They cannot “see” how a page is rendered on a browser. Therefor the markup language used to render the navigation has nothing to do with URLs in a directory.

    Hope this helps.

  • @joanmuschampfagnaniMost themes allow you to create subpages and categorize them when you create them or when you add them to the menu. The level to which you can do that may vary from theme to theme. 

  • @amyhallbiz

    Thanks! I didn’t know that about dropdown menus!

  • @judithgotwald
    FYI:  Make sure you read my comment about this! The comment about dropdown menus… not true.

  • @johnkellyThank you for pointing me to part of the thread I missed. 


  • @judithgotwald

    My pleasure :-)

  • great question, Joan, helpful for me as I am trying to get a blog site built, too. @joanmuschampfagnani

  • @judithgotwald @johnkelly learning more from this thread. Just need to do it now!

  • @joanmuschampfagnani Great thread as always Joan you excel at your Q&A!!!

    I agree with the consensus here about using posts and categories. However, periodically you’ll have some evergreen content that people just keep coming back to.  I always take it out of the posts and make the content a page. Use a 301 redirect to insure the traffic and search engines find your new page. That way the the content doesn’t get stored in the archives. :)

  • @ptwylie  thanks! I will have a lot of evergreen content, but specifically I am thinking of events and such that have several pages associated. If a change needs to be made, it’s better if all are grouped together, so it’s not easy to miss one update.

  • @judithgotwald  Hi Judith … @johnkelly and I are saying basically the same thing.  when Google finds a visible link on a page it crawls through it and goes to the under lying page. If you are doing some “deep linking” (inter linking your pages) Google will crawl through one link and then the other. This encourages Google to spend some time on your site. If Google can’t see the link, it can’t crawl through it. That doesn’t mean it won’t see the pages on your site … it just can’t go through a link that it can’t see to the pages below it.

    A good alternative to drop down menus are side bar menus which will allow your readers to find what they want without searching all over your site. Your sidebar menu can be arraigned by category. All of your similar posts can be added to the same category, then your readers will be able to find them all in one place … as will you.

    On a site I like to use the minimum amount of pages I can get away with and utilize categories like Chapters of a book. Click on a side bar category menu link and all the individual “pages” (posts) of the chapter pop up. At one time there were no tags on pages for additional SEO value, so I got into the habit of putting as much as possible into posts instead of pages. (Now we have plug-ins that give us tags on pages … but old habits die hard.)

    Basically there is more than one way to do what you want to accomplish and there are no “rights or wrongs”. As long as what you’re doing on your WordPress site is keyword rich you’ll get the traffic.

  • @joanmuschampfagnani Hi Joan. I want to jump on what @amyhallbiz said. There are a lot of different strategies each with different benefits. I think what is most important is that you get your content out there. My feeling is that no matter which strategy you use, there are down sides. And no matter which strategy you use, there will be a new WP feature in the future that means you will need a new strategy.

    I applaud you for wanting to do the smart thing from the beginning. But with technology as moving target, it’s really hard to know what’s going to be smart both today and tomorrow. Everyone has different focuses and expertise. Without offending anyone, I don’t think any one of us has the whole picture or really can tell you what is best for you. 

    Choose a horse and ride it. You can always change things later when your vision is clearer.

  • Hi Joan,I have a series of WordPress howto videos on my website.  They are free and cover just about any subject.  The link is http://lmdesigninc.com/wordpress-video-help/

    Hope this helps.

  • @mikemorton I will definitely check them out! Thanks

    @charlene-kingston I totally understand what you are saying. I say the same thing to my clients about starting and revising. Websites must always be a work in progress or you can be left in the dust.

    This is actually a revised and updated site and I am trying to cure some basic shortcomings from my current site as well as improve the look and feel. I have content out now and can continue to add, but also know that to really create the systems to allow me to fully delegate updates I need to have a simpler back-end organization.

    I simply have never worked with Word Press before, so while I know it gets great feedback, I am in learning mode. As I invest the effort it needs to be significantly better than the tool I have now.

    I’ve worked with many different systems in the past 15 years, including some very sophisticated custom CMS capabilities, so I have to be sure what I expect is reasonably available. Now I am a small business, not working for a firm loaded with developers. :)

  • no one really draws out if something is a page or sub page so why not choose a naming convention that covers the sub-page idea?

    BigIdeaTitle

    BigIdea: the subpage

    BigIdea: another subpage

    BigIdea: the Magic

  • @richardmclaughlin  thanks for the suggestion. It’s less about site visitors and more about page management, so it’s really to make it easier on my team to ensure when we make a change that needs to be reflected on any and all associated pages it is easy to find them all and not miss any.

  • Does anyone know how to set up a “rel=author” on a Wordpress Blog?  Don Power did a good article on Social Media Examiner, How to Add Google Author Tags to Your Blog for Improved Search Results, but it doesn’t work for Wordpress blogs! 

    Any help is appreciated!  Thanks

  • @karenpelletier   Here’s a great post from Joast (WordPress God) on how to add the Google author tag to WP http://yoast.com/wordpress-rel-author-rel-me/


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