What do you do when someone asks you to adjust your quote? (17 posts)

Topic tags: pricing
  • I was just asked to quote someone for some work and they’ve asked me to basically do the work for half the price. I’m reluctant to alter my quote but it’s not a small amount of money. What would you do?

  • @casmccullough select the lowest point that you will do the work for, an important first step, and then give a counter offer at 85% of your original.

  • First, give consideration to whether this is a client who can potentially open more doors for you; introduce you to a new set of clients or a new segment of the industry.  If so, then look at it as an opportunity to learn about a new field or meet new prospects and consider lowering the price as much as 30%, but not more. 

    If you aren’t getting any advantage other than a project, consider whether this client will give you additional work in the future or if it is a one-time thing.  If the former, you might consider lowering your price 15-20%; if the latter, stick to your guns or lower a token amount of 5-10% as a gesture of good will.

  • Here is an article I found useful:

    http://jamescrossman.com/words/ten-laws-of-pricing-for-consultants/

  • @casmccullough  I used to work for a very large consulting firm.  We would get that quite often.  When asked to give a quote, we figure out what the whole job would take.  When providing the quote, we would provide a list of high level activities and how long it would take to perform each one of them.   And then here’s the kicker.  We would document the assumptions; e.g. 

    • decisions would be made within 24 hours
    • Facebook will be monitored 3 times a day at an hour each time
    • etc.
    This defines the scope.  The as usual, the customer doesn’t want to spend that much money.  However, they can’t argue because of the detail behind the scope and quote.  So then you discuss where the scope can be cut without losing the quality.  Don’t cut your hourly rate…….Cut the scope of work.  You’ll often find the customer is willing to negotiate for a Win, Win solution. @evelyneoreskovich @richardmclaughlin

  • @evelyneoreskovich thanks for the link and comments. I agree that the client might be considered as part of the value

    @trudyd1474 thanks for sharing your perspective. Being detailed in defining the scope is always good, and if you lay it all out then the customer can decide what aspect they’re willing to comprise on getting, rather than you earning less for your efforts.  Great point!

    @casmccullough great question! Very insightful responses. 

  • Pricing is probably the most hotly debated topic on independent contractors forums right now. A big shout out to  @trudyd1474  In the end, you should never lower your prices, but instead cut the scope of the work being done.

  • @richardmclaughlin @evelyneoreskovich @trudyd1474 @juleswebb and  @michaelpingree… thanks so much for your responses. I ended up asking for a bit more information about the work involved and adjusted the scope of the project. Have sent her a counter proposal. Fingers crossed.

    The thing is, I figure they’re not just paying for my time. They’re paying for my 20 years of experience as well and my integrity. I wonder sometimes if I convey the value of that enough in my quotes (which are fairly detailed proposals).

    I understand everyone has budgetary constraints and am often in the same boat but I’m unsure how much to bend sometimes.

  • @casmccullough Hi Cas

    You are correct – the client is paying for your experience and your work. They are not paying you for how long it takes you to do something. They are paying for the end result.

    Don’t pander to clients who want something done cheaply. You are better off holding out for clients who appreciate your talent and will pay your rate. Don’t let one client set your pricing, let the market do that.

    Hope that helps.

    Russell

  • @casmccullough

    Great comments already, but I’ll throw in my .02:

    You’re absolutely right on the experience piece. I had a client want me to cut my price in half by cutting the scope in half.

    I asked, “do you only want half of my experience, too?”

    I generally only come down on my original proposal if I really want to work with the client, either because of a prestige factor, or I’m passionate about their business or cause, or I feel it will open other doors.

    When I lose a job to someone who underbid a project I find one of two things happen:

    • The client returns one day, bitching about how bad the service from the other vendor was (probably b/c they had to cut service so much not to lose the business), or
    • The vendor bitches about how much the customer is expecting even though they’re getting such a deal.
    I think you probably chose the right approach. Good luck!

  • @evelyneoreskovich  Thanks for the link – great article!

  • Well said @rich-brooks! I am learning that it is better to attract a client who truly values your expertise and experience rather than a client who just wants a quick fix. I find the whole pricing thing really difficult though.

    I guess a good analogy to keep in mind is if someone needed brain surgery, would they ask the brain surgeon to cut the scope of the project? I know that my work isn’t life saving but it certainly can make a difference to my clients’ bottom lines.

  • @rich-brooks, I smiled when I saw your comments about clients who went elsewhere only to come back!  I recently had a prospect who had a huge project that would have taken most if not all my time for the better part of 6 months.  They panicked when I gave them my proposal.  Despite offering them a reasonable break on the price, they kept trying to negotiate a cheaper situation (they wanted to pay me commission on business developed for a launch – there would be no business for at least 6 months).  They finally went elsewhere. 

    It is now 4 months into the project and, from what I hear, it still doesn’t seem to have gotten its legs.  They asked for an appt at an upcoming industry event and I am curious what they will have to say.  It will take every ounce of professional decorum for me not to say “So how’d it work out for you?” 

    There’s an old saying the mother of a friend of mine used to always say when I was gorwing up – “Cheap no good, Good no cheap”.

    Sometimes it’s more expensive (in both time and money) to go the cheap route.

  • I like that saying, @evelyneoreskovich. I’ve been there so often. You almost always lose out when you compromise on price and they compromise on nothing. 
    I’ve never regretted turning away a project when they wanted too much for too little. 
    My general response to the question is, …here’s what I can do for that price… 

  • @casmccullough

    Cas,

    There’s lot’s of wisdom in the posts above.  Here is my view.

    Trust your intuition.  The reluctance you felt in lowering your price was correct.  

    If you feel confident with the value you deliver for the price, you need to hold firm on your pricing. 

    If you feel your priced too high for the market you serve, adjust your pricing policy for all clients, but you must be the one to adjust it, and then hold firm to your policy.

    If you do not compromise your price, the issue will become part of your past.  If you do negotiate price, it will become part of your future, meaning the client and those the client refers to you, will expect it in the future.

    If your clients understand upfront that pricing is non-negotiable, you will save lots of time and aggravation. 

    You may want to consider referring these type of clients to someone else in your trade who works for less and is willing to pay you a referral fee.

    Save your talent and efforts for those who appreciate getting in before the price increase.

  • @casmccullough You’ve received some really smart advice here. I never cut my rates, but I will adjust the scope to fit the budget. Often, I break things out into phases that they can afford. 

    In my experience, if someone is really niggling me about the price, they are not going to be a great client. After doing projects that started out with price wars, I’ve learned to walk away. 

    Budget is important to the client, and part of my job is to create a solution within a budget creatively. But when money is the only factor important to the client, when they will compromise both quality and schedule for budget, it’s not a good fit for me. 

    Be strong in your value of yourself when you negotiate with people who want to pick away at your price. Price is not your value!

  • Yuck! I haven’t ran into this problem yet. I like @Rick-Brooks comment about them wanting only half of your expertise!


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