Using Personas in Social Media (TOTW: 3.18.2013) (12 posts)

Topic tags: personas, totw
  • Hopefully everyone’s fully recovered after St. Patty’s Day. 

    Recently here at flyte we’ve been talking about creating “personas,” detailed information about our ideal customer.

    Even giving them names, wants, desires, job titles, goals, etc.

    Have you ever done that for your business? How did you go about it?

  • This has never seemed helpful to me—although I can see how people with a particular product might benefit.

    I have blogged with no persona for two years and the people I now find following are people I would not have imagined. But they are youthful and fun, passionate and all over the world. 

    I might be missing them if I had gone the persona route.

    Love that serendipity. It exceeds my imagination.

  • Best Buy and other marketing behemoths have been using Personae ( http://bit.ly/137JAdi ) and other advanced customer profiling technique almost since the beginning, overtly on the sales floor and through various metrics in social media. I bring this example to the conversation because an interesting development has occurred in the last year or so, they determined the average Sales Associate could not process the subtleties inherent in having sub groupings of customers nor, if the Sales Associate was able to correctly identify  the persona, they were unable to use needed finesse to apply the changes needed to improve close rates.
    So what to do? If you can develop an ideal and or most likely profile, use it for guidance and inspiration. But like so many other techniques and processes, in the hands of a novice you may have snake oil rather than white magic. And unless you’re selling snake oil, if that helps you get it done, bottoms up (or should that be bellies up?)
    But…if you are into the underbelly of SEO, personae can and should be a valuable tool.

  • I think it’s just not a good ideal that will only damage sales long term. Prior to my 11 years in eCommerce I spent 25 years in outside commission sales. 10 years was spent as a “Tin Man” and if anyone has seen the move it really understates the antics of “in-home” sales. If I didn’t leave the home with a contract (average sale was $3500) in 180 minutes, I walked out and never returned – no quotes. My last 3 years I closed 38% of anyone I made a presentation to.

    From 1985-1995 I sat down at the kitchen tables of literally thousands of home owners from the whitest of white collars to the bluest of blue. I took formal training from some of the best like Tom Hopkins. The single biggest take away? BUYERS ARE LIARS!

    Hypothetical: you get a new sky’s the limit credit card – You walk into Best Buy looking for a killer TV, the salesman asks “can I help you” and you say “no, just looking” and the lies begin. 
    Yes we can identify the spending habits of our customer and offer “personalized” recommendations but if you think but if you think you can post up some identifying factors to paint the picture of your customer it will always be off.
    The problem with establishing a “persona” is that people buy on emotion and then rationalize their purchase with logic thus trying to “logically” move through the sales cycle can  cause you to easily miss their motivations to buy.

  • i dont get this idea….. i have lots of different kinds o f customers…..  but  i want to know as much about them as possible….and be open to all the individuals….for sure i want to know  what kinds of folks  are responding to  us but  that  comes  kind of natural…wouldnt need a system… i do  think of my   best  customer as an adventurous   smart   woman with good taste and  kind of jaded  and able to buy what she wants..and  sure of her own taste…  if  thats making a persona then i do it……..but i have other customers  too….

    ..and  like @judithgotwald the  serendipity is  wonderful…. 

    @mitch-rezman i tell my sales people never to ask….may i help you?  they always  say no…lol

  • @rich-brooks I’m the discenting voice … Again. I’ve created a persona for my ideal client, one male and one female, Neal & Stephanie. I’ve fashioned them after my fav clients. They remind me what’s important to these types of clients, what I need to write and post about. If I didn’t think about these personas I would quickly get off track in my marketing efforts. Do I get clients like them? Sometimes but not as often as I’d like.

  • Right now I have the very best personae profiles I’ve ever had.  Not because I studied my customers and came up with the ‘ideal’ customer profile.

    But because they (the most perfect customers) came to me and are now my clients.  I could not have made up a composite as well as these folks fit what into what I would look for in a truly great client base.  One male and one female that I now pattern other clients after – these are the folks all others get compared to, even if it is not a conscious effort on my part. 

    I pick and choose who I will work with and turn down many when I know I won’t have time to do my best for them.

    @samwallace @mitch-rezman — both really good comments, enlightening even. 

    Eileen :)

  • @Rich Brooks This study kind of dovetails with your research http://goo.gl/rE0X1

  • @Rich-Brooks I do use personas and work with my clients to develop them, although we don’t always get them as detailed as we might like.

    Developing mine has helped me better attract the right clients, but more importantly, it helps me tell my networking contacts what is a good lead for me. This way I don’t get as many referrals I don’t want/can’t help.

  • Hi Rich!  Here’s my 2 cents worth… 

    In creating stakeholder engagement programs, the concept of a persona has been very useful for me.  I’m not necessarily using it to sell something as @mitch-rezman mentioned, but more to ensure that I address the issues that a particular group or client may be interested in.  

    I find by having a persona, I can communicate more specifically, as opposed to having an idea in my head and wondering if I have addressed all the issues for each stakeholder we have.  As @judithgotwald noted, there is a serendipity in speaking your own voice (one to many) vs. having to craft a corporate voice for customers (many-as-one to many). 
    So my take on how to respond to your question, @rich-brooks, is to start at my whiteboard and list who my customers/stakeholders are, and list as many things as I know about them demographically and psychographically. The more we know about who they are, the better we can appeal to what they need or want.  Whether you name them, as  @amyhallbiz has, is a matter of choice. It’s a matter of seeing your business through their eyes- how can you make their lives better?

    And really, isn’t that what good business is about?

  • @rich-brooks- Coincidentally came across this post today- seemed timely and germane to this conversation.

    Yes, a lot has been written lately on the use of buyer personas, or how content marketing “starts with the buyer, or the importance of mapping the buyer journey.  Yet, according to Forresteronly 14% of marketers align compelling content with buyers’ journeys. This indicates that marketers have not dug deep enough to understand their buyer.”
    http://www.annuitas.com/2013/03/you-dont-know-the-buyer-jack/ 

  • from what im gathering this PERSONA word  is an old old and    good  and  basic business idea…nothing new about it……but  im not sure the word  would  mean  much  outside the social media bubble….i do this persona thing  and am all for the idea  but i never heard  of the word used out here in my  world….which is  fine unless you are trying to  talk to a person outside your  world….  persona  already had a meaning outside of marketing……

    also   doesnt  this  happen naturally   with an observant   focussed  business owner?    i wouldnt need help on this idea…its on my mind   all the time….whats  she like,  what does she  want, where else does she shop, what  colors is  she   buying…  etc etc  ….

    also   if you  are  selling to  truckers one week and hairdressers  the next…how  do you  ever  come up with a persona?….

    . this is an interesting  thread….thanks  rich…

    @rich-brooks


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