Pinterest Marketing…Really? (TOTW: 3/4/2012) (41 posts)

Topic tags: pinterest, totw
  • Hey, have you heard of Pinterest?

    OK, I’m kidding. You’d have to be living under an unpinned rock not to have heard of this new social media darling.

    In fact, some of you have even started asking about creating a club just for Pinterest. =8^0

    Color me unconvinced.

    While there have been plenty of stories of certain businesses driving INSANE!!! amounts of traffic to their site through Pinterest, I haven’t seen many about the ROI. Do those visitors stick around? Do they subscribe to an email newsletter? Do they buy anything?

    So, in this week’s thread let’s talk about Pinterest.

    • Do you believe the hype?
    • Is Pinterest going to be the next big thing, or the next Plurk?
    • What is YOUR Pinterest success story? (Not one you read about in SME, Mashable or ReadWriteWeb.)
    • What’s your best Pinterest marketing tip?
    • And yes, what’s your Pinterest URL?
    (And, by the way, I thought email was pointless when I first saw it, so feel free to tell me I’m way off base on this one.)

  • @rich-brooks I don’t have a success story yet because I just signed up for the service. My personal account,  http://pinterest.com/kristycartier/, will allow me to play around before posting to my association’s account, http://pinterest.com/ahaaorg/. With that account, I would like to gather our advertising and marketing agencies’ works as well as the works submitted for the U.S.H. Idea Awards. The main goal is to create engagement which might attract new members, sponsors and partners. I’ll follow this topic so I can pick up tips from the more experienced Pinterest SME’ers!

    • Hype: It’s the latest bauble in social media
    • Next big thing: I believe that Pinterest is here to stay. We have become a visual, short-attention span society. I mean, I could look at horse, architecture and landscape photography all day!
    • Success story: none to report yet
    • Marketing tip: Use Mashable, SME and other sights to find the high profile accounts and follow the boards that appeal to you. It’s similar to Twitter that way – find the big fish and follow. This will help you gain visibility. For trade associations, follow your members.
    • URL: Please see my introduction above. 
    Happy pinning!

  • Copyright issues may be a real problem for Pinterest users

    Pinterest writes:“YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT, TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, THE ENTIRE RISK ARISING OUT OF YOUR ACCESS TO AND USE OF THE SITE, APPLICATION, SERVICES AND SITE CONTENT REMAINS WITH YOU.”

    What’s more, Pinterest places all blame and potential legal fees on its users.  It writes:

    “You agree to defend, indemnify, and hold Cold Brew Labs, its officers, directors, employees and agents, harmless from and against any claims, liabilities, damages, losses, and expenses, including, without limitation, reasonable legal and accounting fees, arising out of or in any way connected with (i) your access to or use of the Site, Application, Services or Site Content, (ii) your Member Content, or (iii) your violation of these Terms.”

    Cite: A Lawyer Who Is Also A Photographer Just Deleted All Her Pinterest Boards Out Of Fear

  • @rich-brooks Just like @kc_kreative I am very new to Pinterest, and haven’t done much other than look at stuff that personally interests me.

    I have a personal account, http://pinterest.com/username right now with almost nothing pinned. Right now I have other priorities, frankly. But, I agree with @kc_kreative and think it will be around; it might likely change up some, but visual methods work well.

    I also appreciate her tips on gaining visibility.

  • @juleswebb Very good and important point!! Until a lawsuit is brought or the government gets involved, this liability could kill the golden goose. I have always sourced my pics when I can. It’s habit for me since I dated a commercial photographer (check out my about.me/kristycartier page or Twitter page) for a number of years. He used to make me go around the State Fair and have people sign releases while he was photographing :)  

  • i do think you area bit  off base…but  you arent a girl..,im  guessing  that   you  dont  like  to look at pictures of s hoes or  cute outfits..or  wall arrangements..or  collage   collections ….buti  can say for sure that  its  really  sweeping   my  market in a huge way..

    .do  i have to have roi proof?….not  going to happen…but to me its a part of  the  web  of  my  website , my  facebook   and my  customers….its  kind of all   working  together …with pinterest  being the most  subtle…. 

    im  getting    hits from  pinterest  to my website   every week…my customers are talking about it….one  said i was the place to go   to for  anyones  pinterest projects…another  plus for me is  education, i  can see  right into  the  trends im  selling in…  thats   great   market research….

    my  business world is all about  visual, how  your house looks…and my  customers  CARE ABOUT THAT….  and  also  i have  huge   amount of  customers w ho  make u p  their own  recycling, rehabbing, projects and thats  huge on pinterest….and at our store….  so im hoping it  stays  around  and   that  my  website  keeps  spreading  thru the internet   thru  pinterest…like it has  been  for the last  few weeks…. i can see from  my statconter  how many hits i get…

    heres my site….  http://www.pinterest.com/greenoakantiques/

    i think its just  starting  and   will be  changing….i  cant see  any  copyright  problems in what ive pinned…. what  kind of   pins  are the problem  in that  way?    

    @rich-brooks great  topic….love it!!!   cant  wiat to  read  everyones  view of this   wild  new  thing….. its just a baby so it will probably  be  changing…and ps….its  so fun on a personal level..

    tip …dont have it all about your  business….  lots of my  boards are  very related to what our store is about but only  2  are   directly about us….

    and…the  better  the  pictures the more  they get pinned…. i need to work on   those skills…..imho its all about the pictures…

  • @joanmuschampfagnani I can see your cause for concern. The legal questions always arise. The shiny new facility may be good for it’s purposes. Yet, when one is unwilling to take any responsibility for an offering an alarm almost sounds. For resale merchandise copyright probably is not an issue. What those who hand manufacture their products, though? Especially, like myself, copyrighted characters and ideas. Now we have a different concern. Any thoughts on this?

  • I use Pinterest but not for marketing. I use it to organize resources for business and personal use. I like looking at some boards as they have great ideas.

  • @rich-brooks I have been using pinterest for the last two weeks, for me, it’s too soon to talk about ROI, but during the first week I sold more than usual. Until now, I believe my consumers are not in the pinterest audience, it is like I’m working with a new nich of market, and that is good for my business. I think it’s important to know who is following you or who like your item, or repin them, it’s important to visit their boards, their websites, blogs or FB. It’s a way to make a marketing research. I think pinterest, Is an easier way to spread out and go farther than FB business pages. You can visit mine, (I’m also new using it), and I’m open for any kind of feedback.Http://pinterest.com/teocallico

  • I tried it, but whats the point of having followers, if you cant communicate with them?

  • I don’t know how one could really measure the direct impact from pintrest. I mean, what are you going to do, create a new analytics annotation every time you add a photo? No, of course not. So i too am very interested to hear how you plan to measure your leads and conversions from Pintrest. 

    This just came to me. Not tested, but makes sense. Place you image or image gallery onto a squeeze page and pin from there. That could work, don’t you think?

  • @rich-brooks Great topic for discussion, Rich. I actually think Pinterest will hold tremendous potential for some businesses but it does boggle my mind to see how much hype and buzz it’s getting these days.

    I even wrote a post on it two weeks ago: Pinterest for tourism: the best thing since vanilla?
    And guess what? It generated the most traffic ever to my blog, like three times more than my usual unique visits! Sheer luck? Opportunistic timing? Perhaps. Still, you have to wonder… ;-)

    Jokes aside, I really do believe a site like Pinterest can complement travel destinations that rely so much on aspirational visuals, evoke emotions and drive traffic to a site where a booking will take place. The demographics help too: between 80-95% are women, depending on which study or article you read. And we all know who take the decisions in most households, right?

    Cheers,

  • Here are some numbers, the link is an add that I saw on my FB, but it’s a way to convence you to use it as a business way to bring traffict to your site. We have to see if the numbers can be for real.

    http://powerofpinning.com/

  • @rich-brooks I do hope I do not make a fool of myself by admitting that prior to the discussion here in SME I have never ever heard of Pinterest…now I ask myself whether it is just me or the fact that Pinterest is, due to its sudden rise, still a phenomenon solely in the States, at least not in the European area? The other way round: Are there SME Club members from Europe knowing that service?

    Nonetheless, now I know about it, my first impression is that Pinterest does not really add an up to now unknown value to the industry – looks a little that it is the hype that lets it go viral. Maybe we should discuss that service next March and look what is left.

  • @ecumenix

    Ha! It’s funny, w/social media I sometimes forget about borders.

    Here’s the search volume on “Pinterest” over the past 12 months:

    And you might be right about it being a US phenom:

    Be curious to hear how and if people are using it outside of North America.

  • I haven’t even given this a breath yet… adding it to the list but it’s not as though people are going to be loving up on pics of Blood Draws, yeee-uuuckkk!

  • I don’t think this article will dissuade most of you from using Pinterest, but being informed is always a good thing.

    Pinterest is profiting off your ‘pinspired’ purchases without a disclosure

    Couple of highlights from article: 

    1. It was recently reported that Pinterest drove more referral traffic last month than Google+, Reddit, YouTube, LinkedIn, and MySpace combined.

    2. Turns out Pinterest is more than just your personal pinboard. The site is using an affiliate linking program to track and get a piece of your e-shopping. “If you post a pin to Pinterest, and it links to an e-commerce site that happens to have an affiliate program, Pinterest modifies the link to add their own affiliate tracking code,” writes Josh David. “If someone clicks through the picture from Pinterest and makes a purchase, Pinterest gets paid.”

  • Oddly, it feels like Pinterest may be facing a Napster-like beginning. Lots of people are flocking to it, but the intellectual property issues are serious. You’re supposed to have or secure the rights to anything you pin, and the Terms of Reference are pretty clear that you’re left holding the bag – not Pinterest. I think it will only be a matter of time before their model is truly tested. 
    I’m a “wait and see” until that big hurdle is overcome.
    trefor

    socialcatalyst.ca 

  • I started to use Pinterest a while ago because I think it’s a great tool for visualising and making your business more emotional. I’m not a heavy but rather selective pinner though. What I’m wondering is, how can I set up a Pinterest account for a business? Since I have to register/sign in with a FB or Twitter account, I am always getting back to my personal account and am not able to create another account for my company. Can anyone provide some help here?

  • Very interesting thread!
    Here’s what I know.  Any environment filled with my target market, I want a presence there, even if that’s a bachelor watching party!
    @rich-brooks I find it necessary for me (may not work for everyone) to seek out the balance of needing proof of a new network’s ROI value and simply jumping in because I know that the right people are there.  Either way it’s a risk.  On one hand, I don’t want to miss business transactions and networking opportunities, but on the other, I don’t want to waste time on a dead environment.
    Sometimes It’s best to test the waters ourselves before passing judgment even if it is a bit risky.

  • @claudiapoeckl  Do you have a Twitter account for your business?  Maybe if you have one, you can sign into it, then go to the Pinterest site and sign in with Twitter and it should pick you up with that account.  I haven’t tried it myself, but I had the same question, so if you try it let us know here if that works.

  • @ericrandolph thats  how i feel too..i dont  quite see  exactly how  to use pinterest  the  best way, yet   etc….but  i know my  target   market is  there…BIG TIME…  so im  there too. ….and i  like it  too   for  my  personal interests….i wouldnt  expect to   see  real  roi   from there   but lots of good   indirect  pluses are already   becoming  apparant………

  • I was thinking the same thing @Trefor Munn-Venn said about Napster – except I went ahead and started an Pinterest account. I’m not quite sure how to best utilize for our biz – so that’s where I’ll play the wait and see game.

  • @juleswebb very interesting article and comments. 

  • Thanks, @dianebianchi, but I don’t have a twitter account and also have not planned to create one. Wondering anyway if the two (FB and Twitter) wouldn’t get linked somehow because nowadays your FB profile gets recognized almost everywhere… 

  • @claudiapoeckl  I believe you have to tell FB or Twitter to link to each other by going into your settings.  My other suggestion would be to set your FB page as the place you post from and then try setting up your Pinterest account.  Don’t have any other ideas.  Does anyone else?

  • Hi, PInterest I think has been a US phenom, as it is only just starting to come into New Zealand now and is still not a big thing here. 
    Not sure how it is going to go but I think make the most of it while it is around and use it as a funnel to your website or your FB page

  • I just read Hubspot’s free Pinterest e-book and got a few good ideas for using Pinterest.

  • Well Thoms @ecumenix, I am from Iceland and Facebook is the thing here.  Twitter is gaining popularity fast while Pinterest is still only used by “heavy” Internet users. 

  • Color me conservative, but I’m with @treformunn-venn – I’ll hold off until I see what is going on with it. I’d love to do a number of user generated photos or something along those lines that give a visual to our loan and savings products, but with the potential for significant copyright abuse (and the failure of electronic systems to accurately judge true copyright violations – see here), this is just a can of worms waiting to be opened.

    Further, I’m concerned because if we set up a contest, or link pictures say of a Ford Focus someone bought with their auto loan from Bellwether, will that result in that picture linking to Ford instead of our website? I’m not certain how “service industry” friendly this is going to be.

    Jason

  • I have many FB fans from abroad, but in Brazil and SA, Pinterest is non existent! I get good response on my posts linked to Pinterest, however that has not generated any scheduling of services. I see it as “this is what the person behind the brand/company likes” and a way of creating a relationship with my public. I don’t expect it to be a business generating machine (wouldn’t mind!), but as a tool to reach out and be seen. Plus, I have fun with it, or wouldn’t spend time on it.http://www.apersonalorganizer.comhttp://pinterest.com/helenaalkhas/

  • @dianebianchi, great suggestion to use FB as my page and try to log onto Pinterest. I immy tried this. But unfortunately, the system forces me to switch back to my personal profile. I guess we have to wait for Pinterest to grow further and open up to more ‘commerical’ use by businesses…

  • @claudiapoeckl. Sorry we couldn’t figure it out. I think you’re right that Pinterest will need to make “fan pages” like Facebook and Google+ to make it more user friendly for businesses. I am going to continue to play around with it and if I stumble on anything I’ll let you know!

  • Great. Thank you, @dianebianchi

  • Here’s a cool new tool that Galley Cat reported on for Pinterest called Pin A Quote — you drag the tool up to your bookmarks toolbar – then you can highlight text you want to quote, and Pin IT! Might have some teeth in it… Tried it and works like a charm…

    http://pinaquote.com/

  • I tried it – that’s really cool!  Thanks @sharijstauch for sharing.

  • great link, thanks Hilda @hildaalanisgonzalez

  • pinaquote is mentioned in that latest SME newsletter @sharijstauch

  • Here are two articles about Pinterest: 56 Ways to Market Your Business on Pinterest ow.ly/9zLIJ (CopyBlogger)

    Everything you always wanted to know about Pinterest (but were afraid to ask) | SmartBlogs ow.ly/9yU0a

    Both of these will answer a lot of your questions. Pinterest is about 97% women, so if your market is female, it is a good place to be.

  • @Anitacohen-Williams. Thanks for the articles. Your point about the number of women on Pinterest is a good one that I can use in my business.

  • @Anitacohen-Williams. Thanks for the articles. Your point about the number of women on Pinterest is a good one that I can use in my business.


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