Scam? – TopofTheSearch Company – Cost friend $3000 (7 posts)

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  • A friend of mine just got suckered by an SEO company calling itself TopOfTheSearch. It claimed clients would get 520 first page rankings but does not specify these rankings will be on Google. 

    From the client contract “The Silver Campaign is guaranteed to have at least 520 first page placements during the length of your campaign!”

    From one of my client’s emails to this company: “In addition, this service was suppose to be “TOP” ranking search engines and I have never heard of kajoe,fsmsearch,yandex, jooper, blekko or duckduckgo. After doing some research on these websites, the whois.com website included, it appears that these websites have little or no ranking and appear to be owned all by the same company. My guess is that you have created these websites with GoDaddy.com and are scamming companies like mine into thinking they are legitimate websites. 
    If anyone here on the Social Examiner Networking group can shed any light on this ‘company’ it would be highly appreciated!
    Michelle Fontaine



  • Hi Michelle,

    I know individuals who have been approached by these people. They are bad news. Follow this link:  http://goo.gl/JSyYY

    Personally I use five simple steps to get top rankings.
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  • Thanks @michellefontaine and @klgoo7 for the heads up about this company.  I do my own SEO but it’s good to know these things to tell clients and others.  Also thanks, Kenneth, for the tips.

  • Hello Michelle @michellefontaine

    It’s impossible to find actual SEO companies online (easily).  Especially at Google, Bing and Yahoo. Somewhat because of the advertisements such as pay-per-click. You have to know someone by word of mouth to get a legit company and/or have an agency who ferrets out the really experienced companies.  Plus, if you use Google as your default browser, you have been profiled and your results are skewed unless you know how to filter them (and your privacy is out the window.).

    Using search at the three main SEs is no way to find a consultant.  You can check there to see how their own companies rank and that can be a good moniker for the ability of the company to do the work, but it is only one point.

    One really big item to check is to use “betterwhois.com” to get the date of registration of the website.  If it is fairly new, you know they don’t have the experience. Plus, if they don’t want anyone to know who owns the company and have that information protected, they may not be legit either. Then check “senderbase.org” to check their SPAM rating. 

    As to the search engines you mentioned – three of those are quite legit. For about a year after launch I used Duckduckgo as my default browser.  As a web developer I really liked the privacy, as that search engine does not collect (your) data from your searches.  You actually get what you searched for at Duckduckgo too. I love it, but do have to use Google as my default for the very purposes of keeping up with what works there and what doesn’t. 

    Blekko is another really great search engine as is Yandex. I have about a half a dozen search engines on my quick access bar (chrome) as I use these all the time. Google, Bing and Yahoo are not included but I check them more often but very rarely use them if I am searching for actual information for myself. Ixquick is another privacy oriented search engine – In 2009 Ixquick completely ended the recording of user IP addresses.  

    At any rate, as far as the search engines – your short list is incidental as any company who states “TOP search engines” and does not include Google, Bing and Yahoo in that statement is simply not speaking the truth, so that advertisement is a blatant lie.

    As far as all the search engine go,  I use Blekko and Duckduckgo for industry research, almost on a daily basis.  I get better results. 

    This of course, is because I am a web developer (and content writer).  If a “web developer” does not know about these search engines, they are also not what they purport to be. I would not expect just anyone to know about the hundreds of search engines that exist out there today. The very first web search engine was “Archie.”  I know this as my first website went online in 1992 – the very year Archie appeared.

    Eileen :D

  • @michellefontaine

    Even if the 520 were all on Google it could be a scam. I could probably get you listed for 520+ phrases on Google. 

    None of them would be relevant, however.

    In less than a week I could help your friend rank well for “selfish garbanzo beans in motorized zebras.” That should help her land more clients. :P

    Almost invariably, SEO firms that offer guarantees have sneaky ways of achieving those goals: D-list search engines, valueless keywords, or even PPC to “appear” on page one.

    Best bet is to talk to a friend in an unrelated industry who is doing well at search and ask if they’ve hired an outside firm for their SEO.

  • Hi Rich @rich-brooks
    Pretty much what I said at the beginning of my wandering post:
    You have to know someone by word of mouth to get a legit company…
    But you are right, word of mouth is the best way to not get ripped off.
    Eileen 

  • @klg007 @supereb @rich-brooks @supereb @dianebianchi

    Thanks for your input folks. I researched the whole incident looking for something they could argue was against the contract they had signed. The contract never said ‘top’ search engines and although they defined 520 1st page placements in 6 months, most of the placements are in little known search engines. They are really stuck, unfortunately. 

    They were already getting high rankings for keywords in their area but had not taken print screens to prove that. This company started using those same keywords with one extra word in it and claim they are responsible for the rankings….. daa…

    Anyhoo, buyer beware is the name of this game!

    Michelle


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