Running one’s own server for business/websites (25 posts)

Topic tags: blogs, business, server, web sites
  • Hello everyone,

    I am wondering if anyone is running their own server for web sites, blogs and business.

    If so I’d like to connect and learn the ins and outs of doing so.
    Thanks so much in advance!

  • @rebeccacohen Years ago, I ran my small business from my home and I upgraded my internet service to Comcast Business which allowed me to host loads of web services for clients. I ran multiple load balanced Apache servers, email server, FTP server, DNS server, Oracle/MySQL databases, and a slew of other features and functionality. The basement of my home looked like an IT shop. It was a wonderful learning experience and I worked hard to keep it all running. 

    But its much, much more cost effective to simply subscribe to existing services that are available cheaply. With all the cloud-based companies, you’d be crazy to do this yourself. 

    I created a bunch of Java web applications including SSL account registration and email validation, online shopping cart, integration with PayPal, and custom database reports. I chucked it all after a few years but I certainly learned valuable technology.

    What are your priorities or goals? 

  • Rebecca………..I have business associates that own their own business too and decided to take control of all their webservices and install in house servers.  Here is the link.  http://www.apple.com/macosx/server/  I am no technology person so I was thankful for the “cloud based” companies that have sprung up, as Rob pointed out. But then again, I might just be a little crazy and have been toying with this myself for sometime.  Get the butterfly nets out folks………..my wife says I’m flittering away again.  No thanks to Rebecca.   lol   lol

  • Thanks Rob. I appreciate what you have shared and yes, it’s a lot of work. I agree there is a lot out there these days with cloud.
    It does sound like you learned a lot in the process so definitely one has to  weigh whether they’d be crazy enough to do it.
    Thanks so much again!
    @robmitchell

  • @dfriesland
    I am glad I could help and maybe they need to get the butterfly nets out for me too. lol
    Thank you for the link as well.
    I live quite rural and have to rethink all I do all the time and love learning this stuff. I know I have some work to finish on my sites and blogs then hope to do a bit more learning.
    Let me know if you jump in with both feet and do this.

  • Rural internet:   http://www.hughesnet.com  

  • I highly recommend against doing that unless you have a solid IT team in place who knows what they are doing and is available 24/7. Plus, the cost for the equipment and the broadband you  may need could make it cost prohibitive.

    Another issue – if you are doing any e-commerce, you must be pci compliant. You can get dedicated, pci compliant servers with full support for around $40 per month. It could be very costly doing it in house on your own as a small business owner. PCI compliance is a BIG deal and if not done correctly could cost you $10,000 per transaction if you are out of compliance.

    One of the best solutions out there is hostgator.com. Great company!

  • @rebeccacohen Look at your other rural options–see if there are any other carriers, including wireless high speed. We had Hughesnet, and it’s expensive, particularly if you want or need to stream audio or video. We used to get put in their “penalty box” which essentially means your inernet gets unusable for 24 hours (slower than dialup). BUT, where we lived at the time, it was the only option, as thre were too many hills and trees for the wireless, and we were too secluded for cable. It was better than dialup, but frustrating for work purposes.

  • @donpurdum
    Thank you Don, for your input. I am familiar with being PCI compliant and yes, if done incorrectly can cost a bundle.
    I do have those in place who are ready to step in an do IT work when I am ready and if should decide to go this route. They are knowledgeable enough and I want to learn myself but don’t really want to be the sole person responsible or will never get other work done.
    I do have to make a decision if this a route I want to go since indeed there are solutions out there I can use at lesser cost.
    Thanks for mentioning hostgator. I will keep that in mind as well.

  • @joanmuschampfagnani
    Thanks Joan. Yes, I have heard about those with some providers getting put in the penalty box.
    I have satellite and other options so do alright with what I have but am looking to improve in a major way. Especially since not planning to move my location any time soon.
    I appreciate all options and what’s available out there!

  • @dfriesland
     @joanmuschampfagnani
    Appreciate you mentioning hughesnet.com
    I will check it out as well.

  • @rebeccacohen Just a quick reply out of my own experience – you definetely have to be aware of safety/malware/virus issues. I guess you are, but that’s what I thought until I started some testdrive with a self hosted server environment. It costs a huge amount of time to keep your system crisp and clean once you don’t have a company backing up that issue for you. In a nutshell, I agree with the others here. There’s good services out there providing extensive help. I am partially running on bluehost.com, they have a quite impressive range of addon services.

  • @rebeccacohen

    My .02? Unless you’re in the hosing business, this is something you want to outsource. 

    There’s no way this won’t end up costing you more in money, time and frustration…we build and design websites for a living and even we outsource this part of the business.

  • @rich-brooks
    Thank you, Rich. Appreciate your input. I definitely want to learn this end of things and have the know how but want the IT guys to work on this more than myself. I definitely am looking at hosting as well but again, have some IT folk willing to work with me. Still a big leap and really have to consider all options.

  • @ecumenix
    Thank you! I have heard much about Bluehost these days and will definitely consider them. I also agree with you on safety, malware and virus issues.
    I am very appreciative of the input you and everyone is sharing.

  • @dfriesland  Thanks, I am checking out hughesnet.com and it’s impressive. I am especially liking the private network aspect as well.

    @joanmuschampfagnani  Joan it looks like an individual can pay more and not be in the penalty box so to speak.

    I have to do satellite and don’t need another company that doesn’t do what it promises. I will be as careful as I can this time.

    I do understand money is going to be involved and no way around it to stay connected.

  • @rebeccacohen It has been two years, an hopefully they have easy monitoring for how much bandwith you use or an unlimited program.  In the absence of a good alternative, it’s a good choice, but has bumps at times.

    Interestingly it held signal longer in heavy rains than our Directv dish, and it took a bit more snow to lose signal as well. We had a one story house, so my husband could brush off the snow and we’d have signal again.

  • @dfriesland
    Thanks for the link http://www.apple.com/macosx/server/
    I am checking it out now!

  • Is there any other way you can accomplish the same results? If not, then go for it. @rebeccacohen

  • @deairby
    I do think I have many options available and just deciding on best course of action as I do some planning.
    Thank you.

  • Great, you are doing the most important thing: coming up with a plan by research and investigation!!! Plan your work and work your plan. If you fail to plan, you plan to fail! @rebeccacohen

  • We used to run our own webserver (except for the ecommerce part of our site, that we outsourced). We’re a 40 year old business with our own IT department, so we were already equipped to do our own hosting. We’re located in a large city, so we have easy access to high speed connections with plenty of bandwidth.

    However, our fast Internet access still represented a single point of failure. When we were hosting our own web server, we experienced several episodes of downtime, one lasting almost two days when a road construction crew severed the main cable that serviced our area. Signing up for a second provider of Internet access just to keep our site online in case the first one fell over would have resulted in more expense than management wanted to incur.

    We also had power glitches and outright power failure, including another time when we were down for most of a day because a car took out a telephone pole that held the power lines for our entire neighborhood. We had a UPS for our web server, but it only provided enough power for us to keep going for 15-20 minutes before we had to shut down. It didn’t make financial sense for us invest the time and money to purchase, maintain and periodically test a generator just for those odd times when power was interrupted — but it was also undesirable to have our site off line for extended periods of time.

    Eventually we decided our focus is on running a business, not becoming a hosting company.

    We were already hosting our ecommerce site with an outside company. The IT manager and I realized an ecommerce server is a big ol’ target for hackers looking for credit card info. Having someone else host that part of the site meant we could sleep at night without worrying so much that the bad guys were attacking at 3am. :)

    So we moved all our domains and sites to the external host, and life has been easier — for me and our IT department — ever since.

    There are things a web server needs to stay happy and healthy — physical security, server management, automated backups, redundant Internet connections, software installation and upgrades, backup power, etc. — that a hosting company can offer us at a very cost-effective price point (because they can spread the cost over many customers) but which in our experience were very difficult and/or NOT cost-effective for us to provide for ourselves.

    We’re using pairNetworks at the moment, so far very happy with their reliability and stability.

  • @deairby
    I agree research and knowing all one can is important.
    And having a plan and working it is of utmost.
    Thanks

  • @dianeaull
    Hi Diane,
    I must have missed your post when I had originally asked for input and apologize.
    I appreciate your sharing your experience and all your company did and learning as well as making wise choices with less headaches and expense.
    I am still doing my research and haven’t made a final decision yet, so may check out pairNetworks as well.
    Thank you again!

  • We do not run our own server, but our server is VPS.


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