Should I Publish Prices on My Website? (26 posts)

  • Setting prices has not been my strong point but now that it’s done I face the dilemma  of whether or not to publish the prices. I’ve done a small poll of people I know and it’s split into 100% of men say NO, 100% of women say yes!

    I have six different web packages and the pricing is starts at $X, with several add on features. There are three maintenance packages that are specific $X/month. And last the branding/rebranding prices are priced on a per project basis, since it depends on much more than I can package together right now. If I were to do packages here it would be similiar to the web packages with pricing starts at $X.

    I’m less concerend with competitors knowing my prices as I am with potential clients being confused by what they really need vs. what they think they need. Most of my clients have come to me because I take the time to explain without jargon and do not oversell services. I’m afraid that I will need to use jargon (i.e. css, html, cms, etc) but I will not have the opportunity to make the connection to their business. On the other hand, it’s always good to know that the person calling can afford your services.

    What are your thoughts? Do you like to see packages and pricing laid out when you are looking at services for your business or not?

    Thank you!

  • Hi, it’s tricky, I am struggling with the same issue. It seems that every time I do a quote it is a different price because of the differing requirements of the customers. I think it is simpler if your prices don’t vary.

  • Personally I  would not because you might miss opportunities.  Seems to me that your method is working.  So just use the pricing for internal knowledge.  Website development is so customized to each product/service/client.

  • @roguecitrus Hi Dawn.. It depends on your market.  My market is small businesses who are just starting off or need to redo a site that is long over due. They are very budget conscious but still need a professional site and access to the bells and whistles that often appear expensive, but are not.  My hope is that they get online, see the benefits and their businesses grow and they then outgrow me. I published a range of prices because, as you know, every website is different.  I state my minimum and my maximum based on the kind of websites I do. I think that helps them a lot in knowing there won’t be surprises or that they haven’t wasted their time in getting proposals. The clients are often not schooled or educated about what they need or don’t need and to me, that’s part of the initial discussion with them.  How can we expect them to know what they don’t know? I find that I stay very busy. Friends and colleagues tell me that my prices are too low  - but that’s another matter.  I’ve been busy and they haven’t.  I’ve weathered the recession.  I’ve inched my prices up a little each year and I’m getting better at it.  Hope that helps.

  • @roguecitrus

    We post some pricing on our entry level, predesigned sites on our website because the selling point is the price point.

    However, for custom jobs and web marketing and social media consulting, we don’t publish prices b/c we’re not looking for people who’s FIRST concern is price.

    When you’ve got a pricy or high end product, the price should be the LAST thing you mention. It should all be about value and ROI.

  • As a web developer, I WISH I could publish prices and be done. But every assignment is so different – and so much of the time is in customer contact and extracting content (text, photos) and managing conetent iterations from the customer. How organized they are has a big effect on the price. If they arrive with a profesional photo portfolio it lowers the price. If they arrive with a good writer it lowers the price. So I have to go with custom quotes every time.

  • @roguecitrus I think a price range is helpful, particularly for your entry level as @rich-brooks mentions. But what a client thinks is simple is quite often not. You can and should create verbiage that tells them that more complex sites that are needed with more advanced buisness needs are unique to each customer, so require specific requirements for pricing and timeline.

  • Completely agree with @joanmuschamp and others above.  I’ve found no website is simple – what they perceive is simple is not.  And if you post flat rates they “expect” that is the whole price – possibly say packages starting at $X would be a better route to go.  And if they have an idea of what they want and can provide examples or screenshots of sites they like, it gives me a much better idea of the work that will be necessary and a more accurate quote.

  • thank you @marketmy , @trudy @maricochran @rich-brooks @abigailgorton @joanmuschampfagnani @dcoville001  ! I think that has really clarified things for me.
    Thank you everyone!

  • If you publish your pricing you commoditise your service which is better if you can work on a retained rather than project basis. So I would say publish retained package price and features but bespoke project work.

  • @jeremyknight We’ve stayed away from the retainer approach because we saw several situations in which one of the parties eventually became unhappy – consultants felt overworked and underpaid or clients felt overbilled and underserved.  Have you had to deal with those issues?

  • @ D Scott Walker Comes down to getting all the expectations, milestones, and resource identified and agreed up front in order to choose the right package. Of course not everything works out as planned and we have had to roll with the punches when things get rocky on occaison. For me the retainer model is a lot to do with cash flow confidence but hey, that’s just me. I’m not sure there is a right or wrong way. More like weighing up the pros and cons with the specifics of your business in mind.

  • @jeremyknight Good points re: the cash flow.  That’s definitely a trade-off!

  • I similarly debated this and decided against it ultimately. I didn’t want to be bought or not bought based on price – and the packaging just makes it more likely that they may try to get more for a lower priced package. Take the focus away from cost. Keep it on your services.

  • Awesome thread. I tend to agree with @rich-brooks in that an entry-level pricing sets the tone, but then there is a vast array of services that can be added-on and these should not publicized per se. It becomes a matter of value and perception, rather than pricing.

  • I would agree with most of you, it depends upon your business, if you have set prices on products then post them. Artists if they are  selling on line, they post their prices. I would post some entry level pricing like @Frederic says and let people know you do custom pricing for other work.

  • Great thread!  On my site I landed at the place where I focus on customization and services but I also list an hourly rate so that potential customers have a sense of what I charge.  I understand that I might be leaving some money on the table by doing this but at list in my space customers that are too bargain priced focused are probably not a great fit for my company.  

    That said, for a long time I did struggle with whether or not I should include pricing.  

  • I concur — great thread.

    As far as websites go, I rather see a range than set figures because that more accurately describes the nature of the beast and instantly tells me what end of the quality spectrum I’m dealing with. If someone gets too specific online, I assume they either are naive, too rigid or are just a run of the mill or cookie cutter operation. That’s just my impression from a personal standpoint, not as a seller or reseller of websites.

    As far as seo goes, published prices are always misleading. How can anyone publish a price before they even talked to a buyer to determine their needs? I mean are they selling $10 dinners with fries or $200,000 homes? Big difference in wants and needs and objectives there.

    The better way to look at pricing is to put first things first. I mean who do YOU want to work with? Whose problems do you want to take on? Are you looking for customers who can pay you $500 or $5,000? The higher end market requires far less Q&A time than the low end and newbie crowd.

    I’m just suggesting that you may want to consider researching your market and spending some time picking out high dollar / low maintenance customers who need your talents and appreciate your expertise without the micromanaging, nitpicky, dollar devaluing hassles of the cookie cutter “set” price crowd.

    Not sure if that makes sense to you, but I’d rather have 10 $2,000/mth clients than  40 $500/mth clients. Same money, but vast difference in the stress, constant question answering, and headaches.

     If you do your research well enough, looking at things like who can afford to pay your real value, who has outdated websites that Google can’t crawl, who’s still not techy enough to know their outdated website is slowly killing their business and needs this explained to them in a way they’ll appreciate you for helping them save their business, who’s going to trust me to be the expert instead of badgering me with incessent questions that sap my time and keep me from working productively… these are the things that should motivate you to get above and beyond and ahead of the crowd.

    You might want to think about finding a way to PICK your clients, not the other way around. You can’t ever do that by publishing your pricesheet on the web.

    At least these are some of the things I’ve been considering lately.

    Robin Carlisle

  • @jeremyknight @dscottwalker @danonbranding @fredericgonzalo @mari-lynharris @davidgadarian @atlantarobin … Thank You!

    It’s great to see so many people participate and the difference in opionions. Thank you.

  •  @roguecitrus Dawn, I think the thing I found most interesting about your topic was that polar opposite tidbit that you shared about all the men saying “don’t publish your prices” while all the women said “publish them.”

    While I’m siding with the guys on this one, I’m curious as to why it was so polarized before the question was posted here. Very interesting… What are your thoughts on that?

    Robin

  • this  whole  discussion  makes me  glad im not in the service business!!! 

     but as a user i would  vote  yes…yes  you need to put  prices on …. as a  buyer  i would  want to   know if i was  even looking at  something in my pricerange…..i think  you owe it to the  buyer  to   give out a  general idea,,, some  buyers  might not  want to   go round and  round  before  finding out  what  you  charge…..and as a seller  why  keep  the  general prices   secret  just to  be   turned  down  later.?   ….and  there is  so much  confusion  out there…. ..why not  try to   communicate  price ranges… with  examples?…. if  you want this!!! its in the x to x $$ range………if you want this!!! its in the  x to x$$$ range…you need to  be able to  generalize a  little…showing  examples  might  really help… then the  buyer  could  see  the  differences…and  show  your  rules with  illustrations…if  you  get this  package  you  cant   do  this..etc etc..

    i bought a  ready made website once, for a little side  business we   were  thinking about,   and her  communication was good……it was from avalon rose…she offered  things  between  400 and  1500$$$ and  you   definitely knew what you were  getting and   even  better…what  you  werent  getting..she  had   very  strict  rules………

    we are  going  thru  this at our store on   custom  things….my   worker  doesnt like to  talk price…yesterday  he spent  over an hour  with  someone and  when they heard the price  it was obviously  not  going to  work…a  general price idea at the start  would have  been   better all around….

    if  you are only interested in the  folks  who   can pay  300$$ an hour for  your  work  you might as well  get  rid of the others  right away…. 

    @roguecitrus lots  of  buyers are  super  busy and  i think you owe it to them  to  be  upfront   in  your  price ranges, if  you want them to stick around and  really  consider your  services….most  businesses  are used to  hearing prices…we hear  them all the time…..

  • @atlantarobin … I wasn’t sure how to answer your question, I’m still not sure I do but what I think is that women are more likely to plan out what they need, have a budget in mind and come through the door with all their ducks in a row ready to start … whereas men know what they want, usually do not have a budget but are also ready to start … I can only attribute the whole thing to men & women think different and have different ways of approaching things …

  • @roguecitrus

    Fascinating insight, Dawn. That may be something to keep in mind as you further target your market. Women planning with a budget, men jumping in without one. Security vs. exporation/adventure. As I look back at my clients/their budgets and what they actually paid me per job and their lifetime value as a client… I’d have to say men wanted the job at any price without flinching at any price I quoted. They were looking for results, and as quickly as possible. The fastest path to the cash for them was getting the thing they needed from me as quickly as possible so they could use that to make more money faster. Women clients always worked within budget, with nitpicky preconceived notions of what they wanted, most of the time that were ill fitted to bringing about the results they were seeking. The men got their “thing” quickly, used it, measured it, came back for more with different tweakings every time, used that, measured it, came back with more adjustments, used it, and so on. So their goal was always jump in, see what it takes to make the most money, improve their system, and do it again… making more money from their system each time. Women had their system preset in their minds, so they used me as a machine part, instead of as a racing mechanic that keeps improving the part to make the car go faster.

    So over my career, I’d have to say it was more worthwhile NOT to quote a job up front, but to quote by the person’s needs that needed a new custom part for their sales racing engine. It didn’t take but a few years to understand that men were my market, not women. That men created the rising ceiling of the market and the push forward. Women created the rock bottom of the market, the price point that remained steady at which no one could buy service or product for a lower price. Men took the risk and the higher profits. Women took the safe road, the security, but had the most competition to deal with and inevitably had to keep lowering their price or cutting services offered to compete.

    The difference was always the fear factor. Men get called to action and go on the offensive when afraid and go out hunting and scouting and staying on the move and looking for more ways to attack their nemesis, their competition. Women circle their wagons to fight and hold their ground, no matter how small a plot of ground that is.

    I once charged $1,500 for a 10-page sales proposal I wrote to a man’s company who needed one quick. I continued to sell the same proposal to them over and over, tweaking that same template with maybe 15 minutes work each time. I did over 30 of them. Each one brought in $50,000 profit to them as my proposal presell the customer and all they had to do was show up to close the deal each time for no more than an hour. After the first one, I could have charged more, but didn’t. Looking back, however, I know they would have paid $5,000 for that first proposal without batting an eye.

    My point here… in this industry there is a good reason to charge according to what the worth of a customer is to your client. A restaurant owner may struggle to pay your set rate and won’t call you because his perception of the value of one customer is lower than that of a roofer who stands to make thousands off one job. And the client whose customers pay him on a recurring basis? Well, over time his customers are worth even more than the roofers.

    To charge the restaurant owner and the roofer and the recurring fee client the same thing is really a disservice to them, selling them all the exact same widget to run a beat up jalopy, a family van, and a million dollar classic car. If you’re thinking that the same part will fit all three, you may be right, but the clients who own the top two cars won’t want to do business with you because it appears you don’t understand the needs of their business.

    In essence, you’re giving them a huge discount, they take your offer, then proceed to get you to provide the custom services they needed in the first place. When that happens, you are now giving deep discounts you can’t afford, so you raise your prices and no one likes it. That client, however, knows all this and will move on to the next contractor or company he can manipulate in the same way.

    Bottom line, figure out what each type business is really worth. If you were working as a salesman for that company, what does he make? 15%? 25%? 40% on a sale? That’s what that company is willing to pay, dollar for dollar, to bring in new business. If you’re selling their business online for them, or creating the means for them to do so, charge what you are worth in terms of dollars generated for them. That really is your true value. Anything else is just discounting.

    Man up, tee hee. Charge the big bucks that you cannot publish. But not because you’re hiding anything. It is the client’s value that is hidden from you. You can’t set a price for a figure you do not know yet. Those big buck companies are going to use you, no matter what you pay. Better to choose the ones who pay your real value.

    If, on the other hand, you like selling widget parts, all the same for everyone and every client, then by all means put the same few price tags on all of them. That will mean you will get some really great clients with small budgets, a few great ones and a lot of headaches from the ones with average budgets, and you will never see one awesome client on the high end whose goal is not to nickel and dime you, unless you changed your widget pricing to a tailored one.

    Just some thoughts and memories I had when I read this topic…. Nothing set in stone… just taking notice of some typical patterns over time… and thinking how I’d do things differently if I were starting out young today. I’d grab a spear and go run after dinosaurs with the guys, for sure!

  • One more note, back then I was a widget seller, kinda sorta, too. But that was when good writers charged a lot for their work. I charged $75/hour for anything I wrote. I always quoted two hours per page at $150. Times 10 pages earned me $1,500. I tried to write for hotels and big ticket sellers, but were still small businesses. No one ever flinched at my prices. Today, online, most buyers would want to pay me $3 a page or less. My heart goes out to all writers trying to survive this new bizarre marketplace. But the only way to thrive and not just survive, is to set fair pricing according to the value you bring to that business. Don’t be a widget. Charge sales commission type pricing, being the value your work will bring to your customer. It’s the mindset you create in your client’s mind about what you do. He’ll only pay so much for a widget. He needs to see you as his saleperson, the one that can generate more sales than the one he is already paying for inhouse.

  • Dawn, have you read Marcus Sheridan’s post here on Social Media Examiner?

  • When I first developed the website for my pre-employment background investigation business, I published prices with a disclaimer explaining they could vary depending upon individual court access costs, etc.  However, I have since removed the prices as I found it was more confusing than it was helpful.  Now I simply list my services and request they contact me for more information.  This has worked out better and I can discuss their needs and then give them a much more accurate price.  


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