Part-Time Business (12 posts)

  • Hi!

    This question is for all those actively involved in their own business. When did you make the transition from part-time to full-time? How were you balancing your work load? I am curious to know :)

    Being a part-time graphic designer, I feel as though that there is not enough time in the day to do what I want to do with my business. I do admit that it can be frustrating at times working a full-time job, that I am blessed to have, and still have your mind thinking about my part-time business. I feel as though that I need more experience and training before I decide to make any leap from part-time to full-time. Anyone else experienced this type of frustration?

  • HI @gblueprint   

    All I have to draw on is my own experience.  I hope this does not get too wordy; I’ll try to keep it short. 

    I worked a full time job for five years and ran an online business part time back when – 1992 to 1997. In early 1998 I left the full time day job and concentrated on the part-time online and local biz. Five years is not that long (it may sound like it though) and I certainly learned a lot during that time.  By the time I went full time with my part-time biz I was making more on the part time than I was on the full time. So it made sense for me, at the time.

    Here is the problem though, if you have a bad month, can you pay your bills, insurance, auto responsibilities, etc, etc, etc.?  If you can’t; if you don’t have a nest egg, you will tear your hair out trying to figure out where your next meal is coming from, not to mention all the obligations you have signed on for. 

    You have to really strive to make it all work for you.  Here is the thing — the MAIN thing — that was a different time on the web.  I was doing biz online four years before Google was and before MSN & before MS was making servers, so I had (have) a distinct advantage over most everyone who’s still around from that time.

    I don’t know exactly what advice to give you because it’s been so long ago for me. I see so many people now deciding to “open business on the web” and all I can do for them (unless they hire me) is to say “good luck.” 

    Yes, there were some frustrating times, back then, but as a programmer, organizer, project manager, I knew what I was getting myself into.  I don’t believe that most people now do know what they’re in for.  It was an exciting time then, as the web was new (not so the internet; another story) and so pushing forward was not just to build a biz but to learn about the web (I had already been on the internet since the 70′s in a variety of positions through mainframe systems) so the atmosphere was very different than it is now. 

    Crapola – I’ve already gotten too wordy and have not said a darn thing to help you.  All I can say at this point is to hang in there. Do you have any uh, more specific questions?

    Eileen

  • @gblueprint

    I quit my job to start a web design firm in 1997. Money was tight, so I took a part time job w/another Internet company. However, I didn’t succeed with either.

    When the other job wanted to move me to a less desirable position I respectfully resigned and put all my effort into what’s now flyte new media.

    I’ll be honest: I had help from my parents who had also helped put my brother through law school, so my rent and utilities were taken care of. Not sure I would have made it or not w/o that help.

    However, by focusing all my effort on my side biz, it grew and now we’ve been around for nearly 16 years.

    I can’t say the same will work for you. I had no wife, no kids and very few responsibilities at the time. You may need to buckle down, do a full time job AND a part time job until the part time job takes off.

    I recommend picking up a copy of Gary Vaynerchuk’s “Crush It” for inspiration.

  • @rich-brooks that’s exactly where I am now, full time to pay the bills and part time to build the business…become good at re-inventing yourself.  It takes xxx times longer and $$$ more than you think….

  • @gblueprint I am wrestling with this too as I am still deciding on launching my consulting on the side. For now I will have to keep a full time job (for steady income and insurance). I figure that I can handle 1-2 clients at time depending on their need level. One of my co-workers does coding / design on the side; however she has youth on her side and doesn’t mind staying up late! She is also an amazing baker so I think she should launch something along those lines in the future (side tangent!).

  • when its  your only income  it  gives every decision  and   plan  it a  different  dimension…. 

     we had a  2  yr  bridge, which  really helped……it  gave i us a little  back up   before we had  to  depend on   our   new  business for  everything… we lived  pretty  cheap  for a few  years after that…………

    i knew  a janitor  once who   never  got the nerve to  quit, every year it  got harder because  she  made  so much money….but hated it….

  • @supereb I think you gave me what I was looking for. I am looking to see how other business owners balanced their time. I love hearing how others started out. I can still glean from your experience even though it has been a while for you. 

    @rich-brooks I think it is awesome that you had the support of your family! It is definitely different for me being a newlywed :) . I have to make sure that I am not lost in my work and neglect my other responsibilities. I still feel as though that I need more experience, as well as training, before I can make that leap. I just want to make sure all my ducks are in a row. I hope that makes sense :) I will definitely check out that book! Thanks for the recommendation!
    @don-grandy Can you elaborate on what you mean by re-inventing yourself?

    @kc_kreative I think its great to make the initial steps toward your dreams. I believe the slow and steady approach is what is needed for new business owners. At times, I wish things would pick up faster so that I can get to my desired destination. Are you into web design and coding? I am interesting in learn more about WordPress Development. Would you, or your co-worker, recommend any courses or programs I could try?
    @annfurnivall I agree. If that is your only source of income, you will do what is needed to survive. I think that is why some business owners are so successful today. They were in a mode of survival.That is a great example of being stuck. I think for me, I don’t want to get stuck working in a job that isn’t my TRUE passion. 

    Thanks for the comments everyone! Please keep them coming. I would love to hear how you got your start :)

  • @gblueprint  I have worked with a number of graphic designers over the years that were in the same position you find yourself in.   I advocated that they utilize all the potential funding sources available to them (savings, loans, etc) and go full time.  

    I have a friend who began in her apartment.  Her best years have been the last two and she now has an office in the business district of her city.  Yep, she has done very well during a terrible economic times. 

    What is her formula?  She works hard at getting clients. If she is not designing for a client, she is making sales calls.  Lots of sales calls!

    There is no clear cut formula to creating a successful small business.  I know many people who had vast financial resources and they failed.  I know more people who were underfunded and are in running a successful business today.

    Put together a business plan, find a mentor and go for it!  Try not to listen to the naysayers.  

    Go for it!

  • @stevecurran Thank you for the advice!

    There are few graphic designers out there who I admire from afar. How would I even as someone to by my mentor? Is there a way to ask?

  • GO FOR IT… imho this  kind of  idea is   great and  dangerous….  the main thing is the  value of your idea,  if it   is  wanted /if  the market  is  demanding it.you  might have a chance……  you  can  go go go  with the  wrong   idea and never  get there……   i think    its about  your basic  concept and ability  to connect  with the  buyers   as  much as  your marketing…

    .the  sad  facts   on  opening a business and  surviving are out there….  and its pretty  brutal.. we did it   i think  by  totally  paying  attention to our  customers  and absorbing   what was actually   wanted and  at what price….  also we had the  luck of a failed  business  behind us  which   gave us  deep  respect [fear] for and  of   the   marketplace!!  lol…. in other words   its all about them…not  us/you…

  • @gblueprint  A mentor does not have to be a graphic artist.  If you look around I am sure you know a successful small business person who you like and respect.  Even if you do not know them well, still meet with them and share your plans on your business with them and get their feedback.

    A few more thoughts:

    • Try as you might to find it, there is no perfect time to start a business.
    • @annfurnivall has a great line in her post: “we had the luck of a failed business”!
    • The odds are against you, but the odds are against us all.
    • Find some graphic artist business forums to follow and try and develop a small network of people who have just started their own graphic design business.
    Finally, you must accept and work with this rule: You have to sell for your business to grow.  You don’t have to like selling, but you have to sell.  There is no way around this rule.   You may be an expert in Illustrator, be able to crank out a logo in 5 minutes, use Photoshop like an artist, but if you do not sell your services everyday, you will not make it.  Most creative folks do not feel comfortable selling.  That’s OK because you can learn how to sell.

    Brandon, you can do this.  Going out on your own is scary, but the payoff and the benefits are wonderful.  Just ask any small business owner!
    Steve
    p.s. Again, stay away from the naysayers.  Find cheerleaders.  

  • @stevecurran Thank you for the advice! I will be sure to take some of this in.


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