Love the Clubs…But…Enhancement Suggestions… (23 posts)

  • THANK YOU for setting up these clubs. I continue to learn. But I have enhancement suggestions.

    - Please change the Leaderboard to reward participation in discussions WAY  more than the random gathering of ‘friends’. 
    - Please cap threads at some amount of posts… 50,  75, 100? The original posters have often left or moved on. If the topic is still hot, current participants can re-start a new thread to continue it.

  • I agree w/ the capping comments on threads! 

    (But i think when you get more points when you make your first comment on a post…? not sure though) 

  • I agree with the cap as well. It’s common on forums for people to dig really deep into the posts and then will suddenly bring the thread back to life even if it’s long been dead or already has a sufficient amount of replies. 

    I didn’t realize the leaderboard was simply based on the amount of friends….

  • @morganbarnhart Well… it is not ‘just’ the amount of friends. But with friends counting for 5 points and posts counting for 10 points, a person with many friends and negligible posts can be up there while a person with many posts but not so many friends is not. Or maybe the jungle explorer look-and-feel needs to reward us for being head hunters and collecting friends?

  • @abigailgorton Ah, I see. I have noticed that most of the people in the leader board have friends in the thousands…And here I thought social media was more about engaging than gathering friends. ;)

  • is  that  the only  reason to have friends?  im  not   going for that….  not to be  unfriendly  but  whats  the point? do we get a prize?  

  • Abigale – you are absolutely dead on!  In my new book draft, I talk about ‘Followers’ as a heard of cows going to slaughter.  They mindlessly follow but have no idea where they are headed or to be ‘de-headed!’

    I joined yesterday and have 14 new friends from request, however, I had to stop accepting every request.  This afternoon, I first visited the profile and website or Facebook of the member and responded to them with comments to develop a friendship.  In my seminars, I explain online success is ultimately a process that truly begins with a personal contact; Like me, Know me, Trust me, Pay me.

    That’s how it works in old school; that’s how it works in new school.

    Do you want a prize or a client / mentor / vendor long term?  Social Media is about the conversation not numbers.  It is all about relationships.

  • @abigailgorton Gotta agree with you, while SME clubs are full of great discussions, there are a few flaws that need ironing out. One of my concerns is finding duplicate threads on a same topic. This thread is the perfect example, as it already existed… ;-)

    Check it out here: http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/clubs/facebook/forum/topic/social-media-examiner-clubs-bugs/

    While it’s not a big deal to have duplicate threads going around, it becomes less appealing after a while when one sees same topics repeated over time. I joined SME clubs during the Holidays, so it’s been what? 6 weeks? I tend to see some topics repeated more and more, specially since clubs became public. As I said, not a big deal, but how many times does one want to jump into a conversation about Pinterest, hmm?

    Time will tell. For now, I just scan through the threads and still find fruitful and insightful discussions going on. Which is why I participate and network away, as we should.

    Cheers,

  • Everyone,

    Thanks for your comments!

    @fredericgonzalo Repetitive threads are the nature of ALL discussion groups.  It’s really not an issue.  Each thread has a life of its own.  Don’t let it bother you :)

    @morganbarnhart @abigailgorton These clubs are called Networking Clubs.  This means we encourage people to have discussion and to network.  The good news is we put a lot more weight on starting and engaging discussion than we do friend requests.  And don’t let the folks in the leaderboard stop you from going after what you really seek (which I hope is good discussion and friendships)>

    Thanks for your feedback everyone!

  • @mike-stelzner No worries, Mike. I agree with you, it’s just that I find it sometimes frustrating to see a conversation repeat itself over and over in the same environment. I know it must be difficult to program, but I wish there was a way that topics got “found” so that we can chime in and add value to a going thread, rather than start from scratch again…

    But I hear you. And we move forward, benefiting of all these great convos! Cheers! :-)

  • @mike-stelzner Thanks Mike. Wish I could just say ‘yes’ and move on. I do agree – adding one friend (5 ) does not bring with it as much reward as commenting on a post (10) or opening a new thread (20). But opening up the member list and clicking through all active members for the last 24 hours, adding friend after friend after friend? Within the next 24 hours that will bring rewards of 100, 200, 300 points.  If you want people there with participation in less than 50 threads, leave the algorithm the way it is. But if you want it to reflect participation, it might be worth revisiting

  • @abigailgorton

    Thanks for your thoughts.  For now we’re going to leave the system the way it is.  We want to reward people for networking.  Can people game the system?  Absolutely.  Should we let those few who do so get in the way of what we are building here.  No way. And the good news is we have a rolling leaderboard (meaning only most active in 30 days rolling period make it on the leaderboard).  Eventually those people who try to game the system will see it is fruitless as they will need to continue to do it regularly.  At some point that person will need to ask the question, “What value is the leaderboard truly to me.” For the rest of us, simply enjoy the network.  And for what it is worth, there are literally hundreds of discussion threads in each club.

  • I’m not here to get on the leaderboard. I’m here to learn, gain insight, and hopefully help out others when I can.

    Unless I win actual CASH for being on the leaderboard, it’s not worth worrying about for me.  ;)

    But since this is a thread for enhancements, I would love a button next to each thread to go straight to new posts. That’s pretty standard on every message board I participate in – but am I just missing that here? Is there some way to do that?

    And a preview of reply before posting would be great too. ;) Thanks.

  • Hey, Mary, so glad you are here to learn and share! Have you used the drop down choice above the reply box on the right side to choose oldest to newest or newest to oldest. @marylarson

  • Hi Dea @deairby yes, I’m aware of the newest to oldest, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Most forums, when you look at a list of threads on the board without going into individual posts, there is a button of some sort that you can click and it will take you right to the newest post in that thread from where you left off last time you read it. It only works if you are logged on to the site, we are always logged on when we come here. It’s especially helpful with a very busy thread. Otherwise you are scrolling trying to find the last post you read.

    Anyway, just a suggestion – it’s pretty standard for message boards. :)

  • I am really bad at the incentive stuff. As I said, I was happy as a trailblazer and have no desire to be anything else. I enjoy scanning the posts and contributing when I can, but I am not so hungry that I’ll contribute if I don’t have anything to say. I am happy to learn a few things and be pointed in some directions I would otherwise not have found. 

    This is probably why I work for myself!

  • i would like a like  button ,like on  facebook…when you like a post  but  dont want to say more…

    i dont see the problem with long   threads

    i would  vote against  too many  inner  clubs…..there is  so much overlapping  i  think  it  would  get   a little  cumberson…. 

    when i  get  on   i  cant  tell which  club im in…

    i  dont  care about the leader  board…. dont see the point…

    thanks for putting  this  up……ive   gotten  some  great   tips a nd ideas  already….

  • @fredericgonzalo ~ I look at this differently.  I’ve been a member of so many groups which disapprove of bringing back an old thread that I tend to just start a new discussion if I don’t see it toward the top of the previous threads.  Been yelled at too many other times for bring a dead thread back to life.

    @abigailgorton ~ I have to agree with this.  To me, the leaderboard showed me who was most active (and therefore had more advice to impart).  When I realized that they didn’t all participate and seemed to simply collect friends, it became obvious that it was in no way indicative of who I might look toward as ‘mentors’ in this land of SME.

    @marylarson ~ Thumbs up for the ‘straight to newest posts button’ ~ and I like to preview my posts, too . . .

    All in all, I really like the clubs and am thrilled to be in a place that is flowing with hoards of information!  Thank for setting it up :)

  • @dedimason Good point. I guess my perspective is that there are threads with very rich information, back & forth insights being shared, that seem to go into oblivion after a week or so. Seems unfortunate that a new thread begins a while later, on the exact topic, no? Specially if that thread only gets 2-3 replies, I feel it a duty to point in the direction of the original thread that perhaps had 30-40 replies on it. It’s knowledge sitting idle and, often enough, still very much relevant.

    But I certainly can understand that it’s a fact of like to keep topics up and running, reinventing themselves. And why not start anew, after all… ;-)

  • @fredericgonzalo ~ your perspective makes perfect sense too.  Who knows how much I (and others) have missed in older threads.

    Maybe, mods could simply combine new topics into older threads?

    Of course, if the older thread holds any outdated (and that happens fast in the online world) info, that thread could be locked with a note that says it’s no longer applicable?

    That would require a lot of ‘Mod time,’ though . . . and I kind of like that right now, the mods have time to enrich discussions, rather than spend all of their time organizing threads.

  • @dedimason as a moderator of the Facebook club and participant on this board I know there isn’t currently a way of combining threads. As a user, @fredericgonzalo has always been pretty good at sharing links to related posts. Since members are constantly joining and search of posts isn’t always effective. I encourage including and searching the tags of the different posts. The world of social media is constantly evolving so there may be new topics related to previous ones but they can spur new conversation on a similar topic. We are able to close topics as moderators so if this is a request to redirect to another thread I recommend sending a PM to your moderator, @deairby

  • YAY!! We have new buttons – straight to new posts! :) I was out of town over the weekend, but I think this might have happened just today. I wish there was a place to post in general, but THANK YOU! It will make our lives much easier. :)

  • Oh sad…they went away. :( Hope they are coming back soon.


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