Is really good content enough? (22 posts)

  • I’m in the process of setting up a new online business venture which involves creating a wordpress website. My background is as a writer and I think I know enough about SEO to create keyword rich content. But is this enough? 

    In resources I’ve been reading they mention backlinks and other technical ways to optimize your site, but this is something I’m quite clueless about at this stage. So my questions are: 1) Is my content enough to launch the site with for now, until I gain a better understanding of technical SEO or should I wait until I know enough to combine both? 2) Where can I find good (and easy for dummies to understand) resources to learn more about the technical aspects of SEO (Webinars / books etc.) 
    Your input would be appreciated. 

  • @cherelleleong Cherelle, it’s always been about the content only now businesses are realizing that it is now crucial to be producing timely, relevant content. The more you post the better. I have laid witness to the changes and none have been more prolific than the past year and is still evolving (more changes coming) :) .

    The only thing that remains constant  is the link it is the Internet lifeline. Make sure your website is linked internally very well, have no dead end pages every page, post needs to have a link, always cite credible sources in your posts, include an image with each post and have the mechanics in place to distribute your content out through the social channels the backlinks will come naturally.

    Writing quality content that is being seen by your peers, target audience will garner the backlinks you need. Don’t be worried about SEO get a plugin Wordpress SEO and look at the post SEO analytics (included with the plugin) to correct any problems with your post before posting.
    Your main concern is to be creating, curating, managing content which as a writer that is what you do best.

  • Thanks guys for the brilliant responses!   @elizabethhorlemann  - I’ve registered for the webinar and am interested to see what it contains.  @ptwylie – Thanks for the great nuts and bolts advice. It gives me a few additional points to add to my content checklist for every post I create. 

  • @Cherelle Leong

    Hello Cherelle.

    When selling a service you are OK with a platform like WordPress depending on the niche market.  

    As a writer, you’ll probably do OK with that platform.  If you were a consultant with a different skill set that included say engineering in a particular field; a doctor with a specialty; a lawyer with a specialty, you’d also need a flagship website. You cannot turn a WordPress site into a website (as many people believe you can) because there are too many variables left up to the platform that you cannot control. WordPress is a CMS platform intended for continuous updating of content so for writers, it is a perfect fit.

    WordPress does well with SEO (as a CMS) if you learn the platform well; learn how to use the extensions that would be useful to your best advantage. You may find over time that a flagship website (in addition) would be an asset also, but to begin with WordPress would be good and may be all you’ll ever need.

    See, it also depends on the marketplace online in which you will be competing. Who your competitors would be and what market share (online) you would need to grab to be able to make it within the first few years.

    There are two areas you’ll need to research first – The market in which you are entering and the marketplace online – two distinctly different areas. 

    Once you have an idea what you’re up against, you can move forward with a decision into which type of platform you think you need.  

    What is the competition doing in the same field? <<< THAT is the question to answer.

    .02

  • Hi all,

    Thank you @ptwylie for boosting my confidence.  I am trying to get everything right but the need for income is pressing.  The more I read about SEO, the more confused I get about needing a professional SEO service or not but the fact is that my site is brand new and I need traffic.

  • Sheesh – I went back up and read over your question. I got off track with my answer by reading the other comments in the thread.

    First is, have you scoped out what platform the competition is using?  That simple question might help you decide which platform to use. Don’t be sucked into anything complicated – WordPress is probably the best CMS Blog platform out there, if that type of platform will do.  I run about a dozen WP blogs and it is an excellent platform. 

    However, most businesses and here you are a tad sketchy ( I have no clue what type of business you are talking about ???? ) have a flagship website and a blog. It makes good business sense.  Detailed business pages with staff, photos, products and all that hoo-ha and an integrated or off site blog with fresh content to satisfy news hounds or spew product announcements. Works well.

    With WP, you do lose control somewhat over what’s behind the scenes. See, on page content is very important. Content is still King.  But content behind the curtain is just as important. You don’t start worrying about back links until you have all your ducks in a row with the website itself.

    For SEO you need several basic things: if possible a keyword rich URL, Keyword or key phrase in the meta title (what appears in the browser tab), same keyword(s) in the Page Title or Header Tag (H1), Subtitle Tags (H2,H3,H4), keywords in the content. 

    OK, so  everyone knows that – but then add this – directory names, image names, image titles, image alt text, video names, video titles, etc. 

    Naming conventions are very important because it’s the words that are indexed by the search engine robots. SO use words to name things, not initials and not shortened, chopped up descriptions. 

    Some say keyword density on a page is not a factor and they would be dead wrong. If you take the top ten pages for any given keyword and compare the keyword density the top site will have the largest % of density and down the line. There may be an anomaly here and there due to heavy back linking but pretty much, for the most part, you’ll find density is a very important part of where you will land for organic search.  You can check keyword density with a number of free tools online. Just search and find the ones you are comfortable with. You don’t have to buy a bunch of fancy SEO tools to do this.

    As a writer, you know words are important – remember words are important in every aspect of a web presence too, and you’ll do better than everyone else. 

    ;D

    PS – For many of the reasons I mentioned above, I recommend a website where you or someone you hire has control over the coding, naming conventions, directory names, etc. so a website can be built from the ground up with SEO “built in” – it is easier to build it in there than to rebuild or go over someone else’s bloated code and make corrections for simple SEO that could be done right the first time. 

  • @supereb Thanks for the fantastic advice. In one way it answers some of my questions and in others it means I asking the right questions. You’re right – the two most pressing questions are the market and online marketplace and this is what I   am currently researching as I build up my content. Not to forget the competition – I’m all too aware of how quickly other businesses will try steal ideas or chop you down at the knees. This is not my first new venture and won’t be my sole income so I can afford to proceed with caution and take time to research properly. For now I think Wordpress will serve my purposes and I appreciate your input, it will certainly be helpful in medium to long term planning.    

  • I wish great content was enough, but there is a lot more to it than just content. If you want your content to rank well, you’re going to have to learn how to research keywords to see which ones get the most searches and which ones are less competitive. High traffic keywords may seem like the golden ticket, but if you want Willy Wonka to find you on a search engine, you need to discover opportunities — that takes research.

    Take some time to learn about SEO, you’ll thank yourself later. The best SEO resource I know is SEOmoz.com. They have a great introduction guide at http://www.seomoz.org/beginners-guide-to-seo

    Enjoy!
    @NathanRKing

  • @cherelleleong. 1.  No. Quality content is not enough to be successful online. Your first step before anything else should be to identify and define your target market. There’s no point creating a beautiful site with quality content if there’s no one who wants to read it or who sees it. You need to learn about basic keyword research and market research first so that you can name your site appropriately and plan out your content to meet the needs of your market. The SEO, which is essential for being found, is easy enough to learn and secondary to your market research.

    2. There are a number of courses available, but it would help if you had a good idea of the type of site you want to create. Do you want to focus on building a blog that you can then monetize through affiliate products and ads? Then there are a huge number of free resources and articles on Clicknewz.com, by Lynn Terry. I belong to her private mastermind group, which is a very supportive community where you can get all your questions answered. There are also great books on blogging, ProBlogger does a couple industry standards – by Darren Rowse and Chris Garrett. If you want to focus on building a blog that earns affiliate income, you can also pick up Rosalind Gardner’s Super Affiliate Handbook, which walks you through every single detail step-by-step – including the technical aspects of setting up a blog and doing basic SEO. Finally, the definitive guide to SEO is by Dan Thies and is called SEO Fast Start. 

    With all that said, if you already know your target market and major keywords and domain name, I would certainly get your blog registered and hosted, then go ahead and install Wordpress and a theme. The beauty of Wordpress is that much of it is already designed to be optimized for SEO.One last note. When you are creating your posts for SEO, I recommend the Wordpress SEO plugin by Yoast. It will make sure you do everything necessary to optimize each post.

    Have fun!

  • Adding to this conversation, I found great information, templates and D-I-Y instructions on content curation on ContentMarketingInstitute.com.

  • @nathanrking Agreed SEO is vital and fortunately as a writer I’ve learnt a wide variety of keyword strategies, including how to find and select keywords that work best. However, I think I still have loads to learn. Thanks for the link I’ll check it out.   @srsheldon Valuable advice. I’ve a strong background in marketing so defining my target market and researching that was my starting point. I have what I feel is a solid business plan to monetize the site but am not going to share the details at this stage. Certainly I’ll check out the links you’ve provided, thank you. The more resource material and food for thought, the better. 

    @supereb Thanks for the additional tips. Will certainly incorporate it into the site. 

    I know I’m being a bit vague but that’s that nature of a new start-up. I’ve already set up the domain & hosting site and my current challenge is not the content or even revenue streams, but getting my blonde brain around the technical workings of Wordpress. The technical IT stuff involved is driving me nuts – yes I know it’s supposed to be easy but it is all new to me and something my brain just switches off to, so it just takes me a little longer. Hence my original question. I know I’ve got good content, but is that enough. Thanks for all the great input everyone –  so appreciated! 

  • Brings up an excellent question regarding, for lack of a better term, the Blend (if that’s TM or R by someone with regards to what I’m about to say… I’m sorry in advance. If it’s not, CHA-CHING!!!) Meaning, what is the right content Blend to appease both the search engines & the people actually performing the searches?

    I’ve heard some old advertising speak that it typically takes 3 impressions for an ad or promo piece to stick in a persons head, they have to see & be cognizant of the message for them to retain it. So does this same methodology apply to writing content? One particular keyword/term used “how often” per so many words? Say…

    - Once in the <H> tag
    - Once in the <H2 or 3> tag
    - Once in the body of “100″ words, linked to something in the website

    Is there an acceptable “industry” standard?

  • Moreover… what gets you dinged as spamming?

  • @Chris Loeser

    Hi Chris – You’re right about everything you said. :D

    The most important is the Title Meta Tag (what appears in the Tab).They used to say between 5% and 8% for density, but that was awhile back. I’ve seen some websites that ranked well with density of almost 18% and very little incoming links. There again it depends on the marketplace.

    One thing to keep in mind is relevance. The search engines fight hundreds of millions (and I do mean 100′s of millons,) of links to porn, drugs and all kinds of deviant behavior websites each and every day. Their algorithms have to measure your content against the content that may be identical on some porn site except for the keywords. I’m serious about this. The problem is so prevalent and sophisticated it’s hard to describe and very hard for us to realize what they have to work around to provide return content with a simple search.

    Although keyword stuffing is a problem it is not so much a problem for most of us, as we are not uh, porn or drug hawkers.   

    Keep your content relevant and creep up on density a little at a time. Be sure you write for the reader while keeping the search engine needs in mind. Research into your own marketplace can give you a good idea of what the marketplace will bear as far as density is concerned. 

    I read somewhere recently some guru said “density” was left behind in 1997. Some people say some pretty foolish things. If that were true then the big “G” would not be working day and night on content (the words), their relevance and how many times they are used on a page. THAT part is simple. Also, you would not find density tools everywhere.  A tag cloud is just an infographic of keyword density. Maybe the use of the term “density” is old fashioned. I don’t know.

    At any rate, I believe in calling an apple an apple. And “density” is the word. Heh.

  • @cherelleleong There are a lot of excellent points in here, but one question I have to ask is if the time you personally spend learning to do this and implementing is worth it versus the time to outsource it? What key part of your buisness won’t you be doing while you do this? Just trying to play a bit of the devil’s advocate.

  • @joanmuschampfagnani    I luv the devils advocate :)

    I am not saying that you can just forget about SEO I have been a practitioner for 10 years so I have seen every change through what has felt like a century. LOL

    I can’t expect that everyone be a SEO expert however, I do expect that the designers, the programmers, the coders have a better than average degree of understanding. 

    Yes, I do agree with my colleagues here that you do need to know Symantec markup if you are performing content management. However, it is not required that you can strip down your theme, rearrange the coding that most themes need (sic). Your better off outsourcing this type of work as Joan has stated and do what you do best writing @cherelleleong

  • @ptwylie and  @joanmuschampfagnani. I agree wholeheartedly. In fact for the past ten years I have outsourced anything remotely technical because that has been my exact approach – my time is valuable so I use it doing what I do best. And thank you for throwing all that technical jargon just to drive your point home. It confused me completely :-)  

    But I’m at a point now where I want to learn about the back-end because I believe that a holistic understanding is ultimately what with give me the best SEO and business results. This is also the first of several ventures I plan to launch online so understanding the nuts and bolts is critical if I am to adapt it to the different products I’ll be working with. If you avoid learning just because it doesn’t come easy it will only gain you so much ground. Yes there is a place for outsourcing, my writing career is built on that fact, but for now I’m going to plod along and hope that those two brain cells of mine kick into action at some point. Besides why would I want to stop being the daily entertainment for my webhost’s support desk?  

  • @cherelleleong I thought I was the daily entertainment for IT support!

    I do get that you want to know–actually so do I–at least basics enough to know what I need done.

    It’s all about prioritizing what you have time to learn! I have a lot on my list, too.  One thing I can say for certain is that I will likely never write code!

  • Code is just a language – It’s what you DO with it that counts.

  • what is your content about? what is your niche? @cherelleleong

  • @cherelleleong

    There’s a lot of great content in this thread, so I’m just going to quickly add my .02 as a web marketing SEO guy:

    1) Yes. If you’re using a CMS platform like WordPress you can always go back and tweak your content, so go get it out there and start bringing in business! (SEO isn’t the only way to drive traffic to your site. Think social media, networking events, email marketing, etc.)

    2) The amount of SEO advice out there is overwhelming. May I suggest Jill Whalen’s High Ranking site? I think her advice is very helpful no matter where you are in your SEO journey. Subscribe to the email newsletter and ask any question you like in the forum.

    There’s plenty of other good content out there, but that’s ONE place I can really recommend.

  • @rich-brooks Thanks for the links, some great info.  @deairby Not ready to share just yet but will do so once the site is up. 


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