Ethical Question: Your Opinion? (19 posts)

Topic tags: ethics
  • So, at a social media breakfast on Friday I made a special offer to attendees: if they bought a physical pass to my upcoming Agents of Change Digital Marketing Conference I would throw in a digital pass as well (virtual access to all the sessions both as a live stream and also the ability to watch the sessions after the conference for up to a year.)

    Apparently I set up the discount wrong in EventBrite and the discount worked on all the physical passes, not just the bundled tickets. 

    Long story short, people could buy the tickets for $25 less than the early bird! I have to pay for the hall rental, food & drinks, parking, etc., etc.

    Six tickets were sold before I realized what happened. Two went to individuals, but another web designer in town bought 4 tickets for her team!

    So, do I chalk it up to a mistake by me, or do I explain the situation to her and politely ask if I can invoice her for the additional $100 and upgrade her to the bundled package…the one I had promoted at the breakfast?

  • ugh, that’s tough …. I think you have to chalk it up to a mistake. If you ask for the $100, I don’t think it will equal the bad feeling the web designer will be left with.

    I do however think you should explain it with an email/phone call, ending with I just wanted you to know in case you have told someone else the pricing special or wanted to buy more tickets. (Building addiitonal goodwill)

    I would also actively try to get more business from the web designer to make up the difference.

  • That is a tough one. Ethically, I think you’re absolutely fine asking for the extra registration fees.

    At the same time, I think you run a very real risk of angering your customers over a fairly small amount of money. Your customers think they’ve paid their fess, and I suspect they would be upset if you asked them for additional payment now.

    I feel for you – I have made mistakes like that in the past, and I chalk up the lost funds to ‘customer relations’.

  • I think you know what the “right ” thing to do is. The questions is should you do what you could be “justified” in doing.

    Is the price difference it cost you worth more than 6 others’ perception of your integrity? Secondly, how many other people will they relay the story to with the ending of “can you believe they did that?”.

    Take this as a cheap lesson in measure once saw twice, measure twice saw once.

  • you made the mistake, you swallow the cost. That might be mean to say but it’s not like you gave too much change back. You posted a price and people bought what you offered.

  • @rich-brooks Hi Rich

    I am with Mac. You need to suck this one up. 

  • @rich-brooks   ditto with mac……. i would never ask….you  advertized it….just  think   how  bad you   would look to the  buyers…. …

    .we have  been there too …..its  always  kind of  sickening……… 

  • @rich-brooks

    So sorry that happened, Rich, but agree with others on how much damage could be done if you don’t just eat that cost and chalk it up to experience.

    You do, however, have three networking hubs that got great deals — the two individuals and one company — so I would definitely create some special “deal of the day” story to let them know how “special” they are. I’d do it in a smiley, ever-so-nice way and give it a great name… something to celebrate YOUR faux pas, not there’s… and nothing to make them feel bad about it.

    In fact, I would use this as a great example of how to turn a bad situation into something very special, positive, and beneficial for all. That way the people who got the benefit of the unexpected “special” laugh and feel good about it, those who had to pay the regular rate feel good about the regular price they paid, you get to put a smile on your face and use your misfortune to help others, and everyone admires you for taking the high road and cluing them in on what to do when you make costly mistakes.

    Hey… I see the beginnings of a very positive “negative” experience you can use in your talks for years to come. In the end, I see you profiting from this in more ways than one… if you take that road.

    What a positively GREAT screwup!!!! :) That’s MY story and I’m stickin’ to it!

    Robin Carlisle

  • While you’re at it, I would do a write up of this story, optimize it, and wheel it out to as many venues as possible, with the main goal to attract as many viewers/readers/hits on your site as possible. THAT way you’ll end up making more money from the faux pas as you would have had you been paid the correct amount.

    Just make sure you use video and post it (always ups the SERPS and gives double exposure on Page One, if optimized)… and choose a title that asks a relevant question that gets lots of searches with low competition.

    That way you can turn your misfortune into a ratings hit. I would do this as soon as possible… to attract MORE buyers to your seminars, if possible.

    Cool, eh?

    Robin Carlisle

  • I agree with the others – you’ll have to swallow this one. With hopefully many more registrants to follow you should be able to level it out…

  • Thanks, everyone! (I was afraid of that.) ;P

  • @rich-brooks I agree, suck it up. And I wouldn’t do an article. I would be concerned that I would be perceived as incompent.

  • yep, everyone has already said what you thought was the path to take… Been listening to Seth Godin’s Linchpin book and generosity is what it’s all about! You were just unintentionally generous!, you LInchpin, you! :) :) ;)  @rich-brooks

  • @rich-brooks

    I am really sorry Rich. I do not advise you ask for a refund whatsoever. the implications can be really bad reputation wise.

    @atlantarobin As Robin said it will be a story to tell for years and years to come. I hope that you will get some serious leads which is the main purpose at the end of the day. Perceive it as an unconventional selling tool. All the best!

  • @eddysleiman

    Frankly, just as Rich did here, I like to be the first one to point out my mistakes… then teach others how I made sweet southern lemonade out of any lemons thrown my way.

    In fact, when I had a writing classroom of my own, I always had a special bulletin board to post scads of famous mistakes and failures… (notorious loser Abe Lincoln — who lost every previous election, declared bankruptcy, etc. being my favorite)… with the point being… everyone has 99 failures to check off their List of Learning on the way to each grand success!

    The flip side? Well… that can be reeeeeeeeeally bad! The first and every time you try to hide a failure, a mistake, a screwup… well… we ALL know what happens in the end. Better to put the happy spin on it yourself than wait till it’s posted, pinned, spun, mashed, and smashed all over the online social scene.

    Nah… I’d rather take those sour lemons and make Sweet Lemonade, fer sher!

  • great  post  robin….thats what i try and  remember and also  have  told my  kids  many times!!! lol ….. 

  • I weigh in like the others – you have to pay (literally) for your error.

    Could have been worse!

  • I agree with the majority that you should just eat that cost… it was only 6 and by being fair you will be more trusting.. The issue that could occur is if your other people find out about this and they want the discount as well or worse yet they demand it from you after the event? I would highlight the 6 as something better then an early bird = maybe an Eagle Scout? Not sure what you would call it.

    @rich-brooks

  • thats howi would  look at it   too @prestonodenbrett if you   make a big  deal of it  others might want it too…..  i  would  probably not  emphasize it at all….and  just  explain if  someone  notices……. 


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