What’s more important, ”Talking About This” or ”Weekly Total Reach” (29 posts)

  • So I’m struggling with these numbers a bit and what they really mean.

    Right now 77 are “Talking About This” on our page, and 1,818 “Total Weekly Reach”.

    My suspicion is that the Total Weekly Reach is what I should be considering, but I’m not sure.

    What opinions do you have?

  • @donpurdum I can easily give you the answer but you can learn a lot more if you go to your FB Page and click on insight. In the top right corner click on the little box next to ‘export data’ and there is are lots of good stuff explaining everything.

    Good luck.

    Jorgen

  • @donpurdum Hi Don

    “Talking About This” is basically a measure of engagement. It is measured over 1 week and updated daily. Basically, if anyone interacts (likes, shares, comments, etc) with your page in some way they will be counted in this.

    “Total Weekly Reach” is a measure of how many individuals are you reaching via your posts.

    Hope that helps you a little, Don.

    Russell Allert

  • @donpurdum the more “Talking about this” you have the more chances you have of interactions (mostly it is when you share a link by someone).The “Total Weekly Reach” doesn’t involve interaction or that people really read it.This is my opinion or interpretation … I might be totally wrong, don’t take it for granted.and , I would love to know  myself!!!

  • @russellallert @floridallergy – Thanks guys! Which one do you feel we should focus on more?

  • I think if you find the percentage of people “talking about this” would be a wise thing to look at. If you have 100% engagement than you know the followers you have are strong, if you only have 2-3% engagement then those who follow your page are not interacting or responding to your page in any way.

    Just divide the total people talking about it by the total number of followers to have and multiply by 100. This will give you a percentage of how well you have been engaging your followers.

    You may reach 100,000 people but if they are not engaged then what is the point?

  • @donpurdum The simple answer is to focus on “talking about this” as it does measure engagement. Reach will come once you start engaging with more and more people.

    You will never reach 100% engagement (that is your “talking about this” number the same as your page Likes) so be realistic. This number will move up and down a lot so take note of it over time, but as it updates daily you should be able to see if what you are writing about is getting good engagement or not.

    An average number I have seen for a decent level of engagement is roughly 10% of your Likes. If you can do better than this constantly then you are doing well.

    Hope that helps! :)

    Russell

  • Reach is pure opportunity (a great thing). Talking about this is success. One will help you get the other. Talking about is taking a lot of work! Especially when I cannot tend to it while at work.

  • It also depends on your goals and objectives of the page and your social media strategy. Both are important (who you’re reaching and how many interact with your page) and should be looked at and documented.

    In order of importance though, remember to ask yourself “what are your goals?” “What do you wish to achieve through your social media strategy” and so on. Are you trying to build awareness or create an interactive community, for example.

    Good luck!

  • Interesting discussion! I am getting about 17% engagement on my Page (fans divided by ‘talking about’ x 100) at the moment. Good idea @russellallert about the 10% engagement level but I recently did the maths on top pages (including SME) such as Starbucks and they were only getting around 2-3% engagement. Obviously the sheer number of fans that these sites have mean that their small percentage of engaged fans still equates to a massive number of people.

  • @chatmarketing Hi Alan

    You are correct. The more fans a page has the lower their engagement level (generally) but my work is with mostly small businesses and so that 10% level works most of the time. Although, remember to take the number over a long period of time as I find it fluctuates wildly. 

    I think the reason why those percentage are so low for larger pages is that they were so obsessed with gaining Likes in a short space of time that they loss the ability to connect or engage with those people who liked them (over the long term)

    Cheers!Russell

  • @russellallert Thanks very much for the small business insight! Also interesting to read your thoughts on why big brands have a small engagements percentage.

    You mention monitoring these stats over the longer-term (which makes a lot of sense as it is only measuring a 7 day period) so would you advise your clients to keep a weekly score and then average it out over a period of say a month?

  • @chatmarketing I keep a spreadsheet and use that to monitor the numbers over time. It just helps me get a “big picture” perspective. 

    You could do this daily or weekly – depends on how much time you have. I do this daily but I’m a social media nerd. :)  

    I like to see at least 3-months worth of data before I’m happy. Mainly because the longer your data set the more of an idea you will have if you are being consistent enough with your engagement. 

    Once you have that data, average it to get your number. Or even better, use Excel to graph it and find your trend line – if it is moving up then you are doing the right things. Depending on your skill level you can also use a “weighted average” which is a little more accurate. 

    One thing to consider though if you are measuring consistency, is to take out any unusual activity. If you run a contest for a week during the time period your “Talking About” will likely spike, which will lift the average. Which is fine over 12 months but it will over-inflate your average over a shorter time when you want to measure consistency. 

    I hope all that made sense. 

    Russell Allert

  • The spreadsheet idea is good idea.  Currently I am standing at 144 talking about this.  I am not sure if this is a good number or not compared to the reach and the likes. looks like about 10%. I need you guys help… Where is the best place to post. my profile newsfeed or my fanpage wall?

    thanks PC

  • Hey everyone, 

     I have seen some pages with over 10,000 fans, but have under 200 “talking about this”, and others that have only 2,500 fans but have 1,200 “talking about this”.  The one with 2,500 fans obviously has so much interaction.  Every time they post something, whether it is really that interesting or not, there seems to be such a loyal following that you will always see at least 10 – 25 comments.  Their edge rank must be through the roof.  I wish I could get even a small piece of that success :) .

  • @russellallert Thanks for the spreadsheet idea! @corysandyke it would be interesting if you had a note of the Page URL or name that is getting nearly 50% engagement! I think we can all learn from others that are doing social well.

  • Hey @Alan Martin, here is one that I follow quite a bit, https://www.facebook.com/goworkoutgirl?ref=pb, and here is one that has almost 100%, https://www.facebook.com/pages/Most-Exciting-Photos/338280396187432?ref=pb.

  • Talking about this is top indicator of quality of your page.

  • @corysandyke Thanks very much for that. I’ll check these out!

  • @leopoldpanovi Hi Leopold.

    I am not sure I agree with your statement completely. I agree that it’s a good indicator but it is an indicator of shareablility and likeability. That doesn’t always equal quality.

    A great example is the second link in @corysandyke post above. The Page’s “Talking About” is so high as people love photos and silly cartoons and generally share them a lot. That however, does not make them (or the page) high in quality.

    Just a small difference but I think that it’s an important one.

    Russell Allert

  • Good point Russell.  The example page “most-exciting-photos” makes it a lot easier for their fans to post.  I think generally people would find it easier share an image/photo than actually saying something on a page.

    Cory

  • @russellallert @corysandyke

    It’s true that pages with fun stuf get more shares. But when this site is goint to make some post connected with marketing (it will not get a lot of shares maybe nothing) this post is going to be visible on all walls.

  • If you’re talking about it goes up , you’re going to reach more people as their actions show to their friends.

  • Very good point Leopold.  And the moral of the story? Get ‘em engaging socially, ever if it has nothing to do with what you are marketing.

  • I agree with @leopoldpanovi
    Focus more on ‘Talking about this’ than reach. As the more engagement and interaction you have, the more reach you will see.
    So ‘Talking about this’ first, then will follow ‘Reach’.

  • I remember wondering about this when I first started. I had to do some research to understand as an answer wasn’t googleable :)  

    Great answers! 

  • I think “reach” is measured over four weeks — longevity of post. So both the immediate response and its life tell you important information. You are likely to get comments early on, but if people are still reading your post after the chatter has died down, that’s nice to know as well.

  • i enjoy some    pages  without   posting on them..

    .so when i  see  my numbers….over  .2000 fans  and  usually  200  talking about this…i  like to think a lot  more than  200  are  taking  some time on  my page….are  these silent  visitors   counted  or  do they fall into the  big  category   with  folks  who  really are  not interested in  my page  anymore..?.

  • @annfurnivall I think it has to do with how Facebook calculates it. Sometimes I see a certain number of people talking about my page, then later on in the day, it drops. It fluctuates; so if you have 200 talking about your page at a particular time, there’s a possibility of a drop or an increase, depending on the activity on your page.

    If someone who’s not a fan takes part in the activities on your page, it will reflect, but won’t be sustainable as someone who’s a fan.


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