TOPIC OF THE WEEK: When should you (if ever) close comments? (1/16/12) (16 posts)

  • Hi all - This week’s topic is based on some recent problems that Timothy’s Coffee was having on their Facebook Page.  They ran a contest that went a bit awry as they were giving away some free coffee and had an automated message saying that people would get their prize but then ran out.  There is currently quite a few angry posts on their Facebook page and they have subsequently closed the posts.  http://www.facebook.com/timothys

    Do you think this is the right course of action?  When, if ever is it appropriate to close comments on your Facebook wall?

  • @andrea-vahl Bonjour Andrea!

    I just went to the Facebook page for Timothy’s Coffee and wow! That was some major screw-up! Now, obviously some people will have to be held accountable for their actions in there, but to answer your question, I think they did the right thing to end the crisis (if there is such a thing, in the context). They officially recognized the blunder, explained what happened, and apologized. Now the best thing they can do is to move on.

    If you keep answering questions and comments from angry customers, it’s like adding fuel to the fire. When a crisis is unfolding, sure, you want to be responsive and answer as much as possible to avoid misinformation. But in this case? Case is closed, and they need to move on. They screwed up, they apologized for it, so the quicker they move on to another discussion, the quicker people will also, eventually, forget and move on. Some folks, obviously, will not forgive nor forget and may switch brands at this point, but leaving the post open to comment won’t do anything to change that anyway, in my opinion.


  • @andrea-vahl I would say never.

    If you have done all the hard work and built up your followers from scratch and really connected with them, then you would not have to close off comments.  These problems would exist but any negative comments will be defended by your true fans and this, together with a good action plan, would put out smaller fires before they get bigger.

    This is poor management on behalf of Timothy’s Coffee. What they did wrong:

    1. The used an automated message
    2. They pulled the Rules Lawyer card: “As stated, the promotion was “while supplies last” so samples were available on a first come, first served basis.” – Did they really think this was going to calm people down?
    3. Their actual promotion was poorly created (although this can happen – that’s why you should get someone experienced running contests if you are not familiar with them)
    4. They refused to honour their commitment – they should be sending samples to everyone who entered, even if it takes a while
    5. They went silent and never responded to those commenting
    6. They obviously didn’t have a plan in place to deal with this
    7. They say they are sorry but are not doing anything to fix it
    8. The closed off comments
    9. They have deleted comments from Fans.
    Basically, they stuffed up BIG TIME. But this was their own doing.

    What they should of done:

    • Had a plan in place to deal with this type of incident (what do we do if A happens type of document)
    • Owned up AND fixed the situation
    • Not panicked and closed off comments
    • Have someone manning their account to respond to people’s comments
    • Never deleted comments (here is my post about this)
    Well, that’s my input. Hope it helps! :)

    Russell Allert

  • I have to agree with @russellallert. Closing the comments was not necesarily the best way of handeling this fail. It could have been much worst and they fixed a lot with the appology. That “special offer” sound cheap, but it can also be seen as an atempt to make it up to the fans.
    @fredericgonzalo I agree they need to move on (and learn from their mistake). But reading the comments I feel that the free samples were not given on a first come, first served basis, as they stated. Or, at least the fans feel like it. And that’s what counts. I think their reply was to short and they needed to put in some extra effort.
    What they could have done? Instead of closing the comments, moved the discussion from their wall (to a more private setting – mail).Post a more comprehensive explanation. Let everyone know what it’s being done to solve the issue. If possible honor the promotion. After all, a mistake must be payed for.
    Also, the appology is quite nicely written, but (maybe because of moving on so quickly) it doesn’t seem quite heartfelt.
    Feel I should say this again: it could have went much worse. But the mistakes they made – wich @russellallert summed up – are quite serious.

  • I can’t say when is the right time to delete a post or close comments but there has to be point where you cut your losses. If they have done everything they can to mitigate the situation as responsibly make amends then that is probably the time. If you provide a forum for some folks to complain they will take the opportunity and not let up. At some point it becomes more about the complaining than about the actual issue that started it.

  • @andreavahl, @russellalbert, @fredericgonzalo @robertspoon

    Holy smokes and this just because of some coffee. I’m going to share this with my community.

    Unbelieveable, why can’t people just realise they made a mistake and move on?

  • @jorgenpoulsen Don’t underestimate the power of coffee + free. :)

    I agree that at some point everyone needs to move on but in my experience if you don’t let someone vent, they explode – and that is when one small mistake turns into a major issue.

    The bottom line is they need to do more than throw up a wall and say to their fans “go away, we don’t want to hear form you for a while”, which is exactly what they are doing.

    They are handling it badly, but they are not alone in that. I have seen much much worse. And it really shows why having a plan on how to deal with situations like this is so important.

    Russell

  • @russellallert I don’t understand fully what they were offered but I do know that someone will always keep venting because they are xxxxx.Perhaps they can’t send out coffee to all of them. I don’t know.Yes you need to have a ‘catastrophe’ plan but you they had aligned them selves with a promotion company that company would have known how to handle things. They tried to save a few bucks and now it’s coming back to bite them

  • Closing communication betwen brand and customers is newer a got idea. They should find a way to make them happy. 

    Negative implant don’t stop even if they close comments – people go on their walls and write about them and maybe one of them even make “hate page”. 

    I would try to communicate with them and give them some litle present or something.

  • It seems they understood the problem. They posted a video which, even though it’s not brilliant, it helps a lot. They are fixing their mistakes, it seems. (for an update, check their page)

  • If they messed up, all they had to do was share an apology, but leave the comments open because when people are upset, they really want to vent or they could get worse. However if there are life threats, then it should be reported. 

  • I think they have defend their promotion that it is credible. Facebook is vital and is considered as alternative to communicate with fans and friends so I think they will just have to try communicate with them properly.

  • I agree with @russellallert on this one. If you silence your fans it’s like when Ford came out with the Model T and said “people can order it in any color as long as its black”. Lol it’s true!

  • This is a topic we have been talking about at my organization so the insight is helpful.  I am a never close comments fan myself but hearing about the experiences of others is really helpful, too, so I don’t feel like I am alone!

  • This is a topic we have been talking about at my organization so the insight is helpful.  I am a never close comments fan myself but hearing about the experiences of others is really helpful, too, so I don’t feel like I am alone!

  • Closing comments is only acceptable in one case: when the conversation goes from angry, upset venting to discriminative or derogative language and tone.

    However, as we’ve seen in many instances, deleting comments is NEVER a good idea – it does’t help in the resolution of an issue, but rather further offends and angers customers.

    The best approach to unhappy customers and comments is to reply to each one individually, SINCERELY apologizing, along with a public (and sincere) apology.

    I see that Timothy’s Coffee made a big mistake, and then made even more mistakes when they were caught unprepared and under attack. However, it seems as though they’ve either taken counsel or done their homework, and are taking the right steps to righting their wrongs, and focusing on making amends with their customers.

    The video from their rep was a smart idea (although, I would have preferred not to see her reading!), and their later apologies and strategy to send out coupons seem sincere. 

    When a company gets caught by surprise in a social media crisis and reacts poorly (or not at all) the most we can hope for that company is that they learn from their mistakes and change their course of action. It’s always nice to see when this happens, rather than seeing brands fail and then fail harder the next time (ahem, United Airlines fiascos).

    My prediction: Judging from their efforts and the comments from their customers, I think this brand will learn from their mistakes and be able to come out of this crisis with reduced damage from what it could/would have been.


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