4/30/12: Topic of the Week: Facebook Group, Subscribe button, or Page (16 posts)

  • I wanted to find out if you are changing your Facebook strategies recently.  Do you think a Facebook Group, Page or using the Subscribe button is best for businesses?  Does it matter what business they are in?  Should all business owners or public figures have their Subscribe button open?  

    I’d love to hear your thoughts!

  • for me, with  lots of engaged   fans and in the  fun entertainment  eye candy side of the  business world….i put   the page itself   a s  first and foremost… i  feel like  hundreds of   actual  customers  get my  message  every day  at least once thru my page  and  i  dont want to rock the boat…..

    im in 2  groups  that are  great, altho small,    but  with peers  not   customers….i would  be  afraid  to   lure  customers  away  from  my  page to  join a group,  as its working so well ….and  they have a limit on time  for social media i asume….

    i need  to read up on the  subscribe  thing….i dont know  what that is…

  • The subscribe button is so people can get your updates without becoming your friend, @annfurnivall  You can read more here:  www.facebook.com/about/subscribe

    I was just having a discussion about tactics with my co-authors and we were commenting how more people are using their personal profiles and using the subscribe button because pages aren’t always seen in the updates.  Just wanted to find out if others were changing their tactics.

  • Andrea. In my personal point of view, as a client, I don’t like to be a friend of a business (since I don’t know who is behind the page and they can go deeper in my profile or pictures). So the idea to use a business on a personal page means to me that they don’t know how to use FB. I am suscribed on several business, but they mix personal issues with business. In my personal page I added the suscribe button because is the only way that my contacts can choose if they don’t want to hear from me if I liked of commented on other walls of my other contacts (to have a little more privacy). Until I understand the few suscribers that I have, can’t receive my personal every day life posts (because I marked that just my friends can read them), so usually, they don’t receive any post from my personal page.

    The FB page, until I know, all my FANS (LIKED ) receive my posts, just the people (if liked comes from personal pages) that decided not to get more notifications of my posts and they manually marked that option, they don’t get them (I have done this with some pages that like to post sever times during the day). If the “liked” comes from a business page, well, they will decide when they want to read more about my business (they know, they have to search to get the my news). So, this option is working well for me.

    The idea of the groups, I like, the conversation doesn’t go outside of the group, but in this option, I don’t get all the posts (if I’m not involve on the conversation), I have to see on my left side of my personal page to see if the group has a number on it, that means, someone wrote on it or there is a change on it.

    For me, each option is on the right concept for what it was made and works perfect how it is. (of course, each business has different needs).

  • I totally agree to @hildaalanisgonzalez ‘s statement. If a business sets up a personal profile, it’s not only against FB rules but also shows that they don’t know how FB works.

    A page is for businesses.

    A personal page is for my private relationships. I activate the subscribe button, if I want ‘outsiders’ to receive certain posts as well.

    Groups, in my opinion, are for specific discussions or projects limited in time or limited to a specific audience. As a business, I want my (potential) fans to have easy access to my information and I do not want to restrict access and make it a hurdle for them to be informed.

    It could be slightly different if the business is all about one specific person, a leader and expert within his/her field. So if the ‘brand’ is a person, a personal page with a subscribe button could work.  But in this case there should be no mix up of personal and professional posts. There is nothing more annyoing when I subscribe to an expert and read what he had for lunch. So in this case, the distinction of ‘public’ or private message within the status update settings is crucial and should not be forgotten…

  • @claudiapoeckl ditto…i  dont appreciate  so called   friends who   send me  business  stuff….

    they should  get a page and let me decide…

  • I personally love groups for the reason shared above.  My groups are really specific clients who have decided to work with me in a group coaching session/workshop.  I now do all my workshops within facebook.  They are all set up as private secret groups for specific coaching clients.  

    While I belong to a few open groups they are a mixture of networking groups and spiritual based groups.  Some I have the notifications turned on and others I don’t.  So if I want to know when someone posts in the group – I leave the notifications on.

    If I am looking for a specific “group” of people from my fan page – I use event pages.  They allow for specific discussion regarding whatever event we are holding and work far better than groups for me.  An event is open and can be shared.  Anyone can decide to “join” go to the event on there own.  I am not a fan of groups which people can add me to without my permission.

    To answer the question, my strategy has shifted slightly in that I use event pages more often and I use groups more often than I did a year ago.mwah

  • I admin on lots of pages, but one in particular is called Local Treasure Valley Businesses.  It’s a referral type page so people in our local area can find businesses…not a lot of fans…  I started a group called the same thing and it blew up over night!  In the first 24 hours, there were nearly 1500 people in and in the 3 weeks since, nearly 2,400 people.  The wall on the group is so busy, my in-laws (whom I added to the group and aren’t really Facebookers) got over 600 email notifications in the first weekend before I shut off notifications for them!  And it continues.  New people are requesting to join every day!  Business is being done right there on the group wall.  We are even having a Face To Face networking event so people can get to know each other in person, not just on Facebook!  I make a living doing fan pages, but I tell you…this group is kicking butt!  I’ve never seen anything like it.  I have set some rules, including you can only post about your business twice a day…and you can post about some one else’s business (referrals) as often as you like.  The tone of the page needs to stay positive…and each month we are picking a local charity to help out.  It’s cool!

  • I find there is more conversation in groups so I have groups set up for clients. I also allow subscribers on my profile but use lists to ensure that subscribers aren’t getting irrelevant stuff in their feeds. My pages are generally busy but not necessarily in the way I’d like them to be. One step at a time.

  • If you are using Facebook as a mixture of business (not as a page, but as a known owner of your business) I would recommend the subscribe button. Anytime I post I ask myself if I have an issue with a client seeing what I am writing. I often share social media tips from my page on my profile. My friends know me as the go to person when they have questions.

  • The content of my personal page and my business page, are polar opposites, and for me, having separate accounts are the proper format to maintain. 

    While some of my friends may have a casual interest in my business, I wouldn’t want to clutter my business fan’s news with some of the topics I discus on my personal page.  While I understand their intent, I am a bit annoyed when friends constantly market their business through my personal page.

    I feel that users should be able to Subscribe to business updates, and I believe the Subscribe button is valuable to businesses.  So, my vote is for all businesses to have the Subscribe button enabled. 

    I like the idea of joining and being part of groups, for both business and personal.  My experience has been positive with the couple of personal groups I belong to on facebook,  However, I have found that the business groups on LinkedIn provide me with more serious business-focused interaction than facebook does.  

  • Great conversation @mgoes @kathyweir @casmccullough @shannawhiteley @carlagoddard @annfurnivall @hildaalanisgonzalez @claudiapoeckl  Loved hearing everyone’s thoughts and opinions!

  • I agree with @mgoes; it is not appropriate for me to mix business and personal, so my business is a page. It would, however, be appropriate for a musician or artist, maybe a realtor, psychiatrist, some consultants, or anyone who is a single person who is their business, to have a profile. The negetive of a page is that I cannot see, share on or from profiles when using as my page, and profiles have to come to me.

    I find that many people don’t understand the subscribe button. Unless I’m missing something, it is only useful to those who created a profile for their business, so they can keep business and personal separate. If they are to use subscribe, the profile must understand that posts to friends must be marked ”friends only/ friends of friends” and posts to subscribers must be marked “public”. If “likes/ friends” don’t understand to use it, they get the annoying mix of business and personal. Subscribe is a little complicated. One reason I might want to create a business profile is for networking groups like this and to be able to comment on profiles as my business. I would like to have you all see me as a business, and keep my personal out of it.

    As to groups, I appreciate them being discussions/ notifications on specific topics, like outdoor activity gatherings, creative things to occupy your kids in the summertime, or what @shannawhiteley has done. I also think @carlagoddard is using them well. In most cases, I don’t think it’s appropriate to use them to attempt to gain income for business. On a side note, one thing that bothers me about groups is when the administrator invites me, I’m automatically added, getting emails and notifications before I consent to being a member. I have to go into my settings, notifications, groups, then individual groups to change the automatically marked email notifications for a group I never requested to be involved in.

    I am, as a consultant, a single person who is my business, but until people start to understand how to use “subscribe” better, I’m not likely to change my strategy.

    Thanks for the great discussion, @andrea-vahl!

  • @shannawhiteley wow, what a group…..  what  do  you  think  drew  so many people in? 

  • I do think that business should have Facebook page, not only because of the insights but because of those clients who don’t have Facebook accounts. Since page is public for everyone to see, it’s nice to give those non-Facebookers a chance to become interested too!

    Naturally there is plenty to do with groups too: many of my clients use groups as a sort of extranet and I could see groups used as client service tool too. But the use of groups should be different than page.

    The subscribe button is more of a personal branding thing, in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with it, if it is in personal professional use: no company should create personal account, that is just wrong.

  • Hi @andrea-vahl

    The advice I give to most Hotels is to engage with customer and guests through their Fan Page. 



    There is not a high demand for Hotels to utilize Groups themselves. Now from a consultant/coach point of view it is more relevant to provide additional tips for clients. Though I dont get much requests for this type of involvement on Facebook. 


    As everything else in Social Media things change fast, so if I identify new trends and a higher demand for Facebook Groups I have strategies I can put in place. But I don’t use a lot of energy on this at the moment.


    Subscribe is the same. It don’t meet and specific requirements or need for the Hotel Family at this time. I am also a bit puzzled myself about the real value of the Facebook Subscribe. 


    Like others here I prefer to provide different type of info on my personal profile vs my Fan Page. Even if I have a link to my profile to my Fan Page and a cover photo that identify what I do I still provide more personal info there. 


    I have seen some Hotel use a profile instead of Fan Page. Think it is more related to not knowing Social Media and how it really works well enough. This is where the opportunity lays for us that cares about Hotels and want to bring New Media in there in ways that bring more customers to our industry.


    Cheers..
    Are Morch – Hotel Blogger


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