No engagement? (24 posts)

  • Do you ever feel like you’re doing everything possible to get your fans to talk, but they just won’t make a sound?

    For one of my clients, I ask questions, I’ve run contests, I share interesting content, and yet no one participates! Even in the contest, where all you had to do was enter your name and email address for a chance to win a $200 gift certificate, I got like 3 entries. 

    Their news feed visibility is low – each posts reaches about 1/4 of their total fans. In order to gain more visibility, we need more engagement. In order for more engagement, we need more visibility. We’ve been at it for about 4 months, and I don’t want my client to think I’m not trying my hardest. 

    Seeking some solace and suggestions. Have you ever been in this situation? Tell me I’m not the only one! What did you do to get people talking? 

  • My organization is in the same boat and we are open to suggestions.  If we do get engagement, it tends to slant to the negative which is really frustrating when our voice is so positive and we are doing such positive things in our communities we serve.  I also am interested in seeing how other people measure their engagement (good or bad).

  • @amoresocia @nitasexton
    do not know if there is an answer to your question, but I do believe that there are variables that can make a page is very successful or not have much engagement.

    Target Audience: what is the target audience of this business and what are their interests? Age? Gender? you can get valuable information from Facebook statistics.

    Communication: On this basis you should establish a proper way to communicate. I have often seen that the problem lies in that the communication is not the most appropriate. For some pages you can get a lot of buzz but not necessarily for others. evaluate how are you communicating and consider making changes if necessary.

    Trust: every day is more difficult to gain the trust of users. They have been disappointed by other brands that filled them with spam or used their data or an inappropriate way. Sometimes the do not interact because the don’t want to highlight and expose their profile.

    Patience: is a crucial tool for success! Be patient, paying attention to details you’re gonna be  able to form a community of trust where they will feel comfortable giving their opinions.

    I hope these topics can help you get the engagement you are looking for in this particular client.
     

  • Push one of the 6 buttons of Buzz (to borrow from a really great back called Buzz Marketing)

    • The taboo (sex, lies, bathroom humor)
    • The unusual
    • The outrageous
    • The hilarious
    • The remarkable
    • The secrets (both kept and revealed)

    These are the things that draw them in and engage them.  anyone of these things, done right, are hard to resist sharing.

    Of course, you have to be congruent with your corporate voice.  If you’re a church, you may want to stay away from the bathroom humor.

  • @mikebrooks @fernandocortes Thanks for the advice. For this client I try to make the posts humorous and remarkable (it’s a travel agency, so posting pictures of remarkable places, and posting funny reasons why people need vacations).. I guess I will have to find other ways to really make it irresistible. 

  • @samantha why don’t you give us the FB Page so we can have a look?

  • @jorgenpoulsen Thanks Jorgen.. Here it is: Graycar Travel

    I’ve had much better success for them on Twitter. Actually got someone to book a trip with Graycar just by tweeting at them. Conversations flow much better there. Not sure where the difference lies..

  • @samantha too long to post here.I had a look. We can get on skype for 10 minutes to discuss if you like. Skype id jorgen-poulsen.You can always post what we discussed here.

  • @amoresocial Happy to help out , Samantha. Let me know if you would like to talk about it. :)

    Russ

    PS I am getting that book list together! :)

  • @amoresocial @nitasexton @mikebrooks @russellallert

    Just a thought, and I hope you won’t get upset or offended at me?

    Travel to someone who has no intention or desire to travel, or to the places you are posting, may not be connecting or resonating with your current audience?

    Try making it personal, ask lots of questions instead of just facts. Make it about your audience and personalize it, not about the travel, vacation, or destinations.

    The travel for them may be more about family visits than it is vacation spots? It will be hard to know. Test and measure a lot of stuff and see where you strike some chords, and then hit the ball there.

    The hard part for you is that I can see pictures of these places all over the web.

    I really believe if you don’t emphasize the vacations/travel, and instead emphasis questions about people’s dream vacations or motives for travel, it might have a different impact.

    It’s just a shot in the dark, but I hope it helps,
    Don

  • @donpurdum Thanks, that helps a lot actually. No offense taken!  @russellallert I’m going back to the drawing board, I will definitely message you if I hit a roadblock :)  

  • @amoresocial – Cool, it always seems delicate to try to throw out an idea without sounding like you know it all or being rude and offensive.

    Hope it goes well. Please keep us updated and let us know when you get the results you’re looking for.

  • @donpurdum Every case is different in social media, it’s all about trial and error until you hit the nail on the head. Since I work pretty much alone, it’s nice to get others input here :)  

  • @amoresocial Please do, Samantha! Happy to help. Good luck! :)

  • Good advice for @amoresocial everyone!  I run a page that is in the medical industry and it’s definitely hard to get interaction.  But we get the most interaction on the purely social fun questions (How is your Monday going so far….etc)

    Just keep mixing it up until you find the right balance of fun and informative just as others have said!

  • @amoresocial Samantha, the challenge I see here is lack of niche. Which may be the reality. Do they have any niche they cater to? If they do then you can publicize precise specials to that destination/ genre rather than general ones… For example…. feb 20 and mar 10 are usually our best deals if the year… You joining us? Then… Jul 4 and dec 25 always book out 6 months in advance. Want to make your reservation? Publicize precise deals. It’s a travel agent. That’s why people opted in. What else wd they want? Mix it up with the personal questions but tell them about the deals. And the sell outs! Yes, that needs to come from the owners, but oh well… Redefine your role as their coach rather than their implementer.

  • @abigailgorton Thanks for the advice – you are right, there really is a lack of a niche. They don’t specialize in one specific travel destination, because there are 6-7 agents who work there who all specialize in multiple places. 

    And I definitely do need to post deals more often. They sent me a couple early on when we first started, but then it fell off. I will have to remind them how important that is. Which goes back to better communication on both our parts. 

  • @abigailgorton @amoresocial Good advice. I’m meeting with a new client that is a travel agency and I will keep this in mind when I talk to her.

  • @amoresocial Iv been in that situation. I thought I realllllllly had something but it didn’t go any where. I’m actually going to try some of the advice I’m reading here. I think your best bet is to take some of the advice here into consideration.

  • @samantha - there have been lots of great ideas here already! one additional challenge may be the absence of a really clear page strategy – and that needs to come from the client… with help from you. i’m guessing that because they’re a smaller/local firm, they’d like to use their page to attract new customers, and engage current ones. using that assumption:

    • what makes this business behind the page special, unique and different from all others like it? why do their customers pick them over other travel agencies?
    • once you know this reason, how can you work together to leverage their core strengths/expertise on the page? so, for example, it it’s because they have 7 travel agents who are seasoned travelers themselves, there may be someone who knows everything there is to know about south american destinations… or currency exchange… or finding the best eco-tourism hotels…. you could bring that expertise to the page by giving you “Ten tips to…”
    • another challenge is that there aren’t that many fans… yet! so how can your clients help change that? do they do a newsletter? printed marketing pieces? biz cards? website? if so, is that facebook page on every single piece of marketing collateral? 
    • someone alluded to the customers… are there particular destinations most of their customers travel to? can the page become an “expert” on those particular places with in depth articles and such? 
    • FB pages should engage and entertain, but with a clear strategy in mind… and in this case it may include showcasing the expertise of the people running the business.
    • i always try to remind folks that facebook is a process and tool, not a destination. a business has to work as hard on facebook as they do in every other marketing/customer channel if they want it to be successful. – especially those with smaller/local brands.
    hope this helps a bit, too.

  • @amoresocial Interesting thread, here. As my expertise lies in travel marketing, I can’t help butting in… ;-)

    One aspect that wasn’t necessarily covered in feedback from others is timing. When do you post? Or rather, when do you think people are most receptive to messages about travel, taking a trip or thinking of the next escape? That’s right: evenings and week-ends. Or if it’s during weekday, make it during lunch time.

    Also, by experience I found that travel agents can have a presence on facebook, and it works OK, but twitter is much more effective, in particular when you monitor conversations, questions being asked, etc. Here in Quebec City, there is a travel agency that recently hired a social media specialist, and he’s doing a pretty good job of posting both on facebook and twitter. I find, however, that their twitter handle is much more dynamic and probable generates more leads than facebook. You can check out their FB page here: https://www.facebook.com/laurierduvallon

    Finally, have you (or the travel agency) though of running a cross-channel promotion? Do they advertise in radio or print? If so, then it could be a radio campaign with “like us on facebook and be entered automatically in a contest to win a trip for two in the Caribbean”. Of course, such promotion would have to be worked out with a tour operator, airline or other partner, but it usually works wonders.

    My two cents.
    Frederic

  • @fredericgonzalo Great suggestions. Making alliances with agent is a great tip. Few campaigns are very challenging and to promote them on Facebook, you need to think beyond the Facebook.

    @amoresocial  also try to post content from official blog directly. Posting Original videos and photographs taken by clients and customer also help to establish more authority. Keep in constant touch with your existing client and ask them to share their experience on Facebook page and if possible give them some incentive for doing this favor like gifts, mementos etc.

  • Everyone has been so helpful! I really appreciate all the feedback. I’m going to try and arrange a meeting with my client this week so I can get some more answers to these questions.

  • Lots of great suggestions in here from everybody. Couldn’t help but keep thinking the following as I read through the posts:

    1. How much exposure are you getting on your FB fan page? I followed the link and saw the FB fan page, there aren’t many fans in there. The strategy needs to include building up the fan page. 
    2. Are you driving traffic to your fan page from other social sources? If not, think of an incentive that will drive traffic and increase “likes” to engage more fans.
    3. Consider engaging an influential advocate? We do this promotion for a game called Just Dance. Last year before anybody knew about the game, we engaged several advocates who had a large Twitter and other Social Media following to spread the word around. We also ran several different contests to get the buzz going. Working out the strategy and finding the key advocates took the longest but once we got going this thing took off. 
    Best of luck to you!


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