Need help IMMEDIATELY! Facebook has disabled my personal page and fan page! (32 posts)

  • Hello!

    Arrrrghhhh.

    Have just returned from a trip and found my entire FB page to be disabled and with it the attached fan page.

    This is thousands and thousands of hours of work, love and everything else that goes into projects such as this.

    I have tried every channel i can to contact FB and let them know how to contact me and try and restore my page but there is little or no help I can find.

    If anyone knows of a way to achieve this PLEASE let me know, this is devastating, not only to me but the thousands of people out there who love Art Bitch and follow this every single day.

    I feel terrible for them and need to resolve this ASAP.

    Sadly,

    AB

  • Ohh no @arty I’ve seen your posts and know that you have been active!  It could be the name.  I don’t have any magic bullets for you other than to keep trying through Facebook channels.  Can you connect with any of your Fans and have them write on your behalf? 

    So frustrating!

  • @andrea-vahl

    This has been a monumental 8-month-several hour a day project massing over 8000 loyal, happy, dedicated followers (and growing), and over 4000 hours of my time (for free)….all gone.

    All of my network, messages, links, everything.

    I did not receive a warning, all this is pointing towards a massive, gaping hole in the FB system, as I created a personal page under my name in order to create the fan page and have since been stuck trying to migrate everyone over to the business page because of the new ‘subscription’ option FB introduced.

    This means no one wants to like the page. They actively communicate with me through my personal page and like it this way.

    Due to this, it has prolonged my personal page and once flagged, probably due to the name and not being an actual identity, they have closed everything without warning and left me no way of recovering this.

    Beyond devastating and annoying.

    Surely there is a way to contact FB, I have tried all of the none options on their help page and followed up the email they sent me, several times.

    Nothing.

    Surely there is more to FB than this, how do people deal with such things?

    Surely there is something you can do?

    AB

  • I wish I could, @arty- even though I wrote the book about Facebook, I never had a connection to a live person at Facebook – it’s very difficult to get personal connections there. 

    I would just try to report the problem in several places here:  http://www.facebook.com/help/somethings-not-working  Continue to report it every day.  I also always recommend to have at least 2 admins on every Page in case something like this happens.  Facebook disables accounts without warning and without notice – it’s very frustrating.  Continue to plead your case, talk about your branding and your company. 

    Good luck!!

  • @arty  I’m soo sorry to hear that your page and profile have been disabled!

    The only recourse that I know of are the two links below:

    http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=pages_bug 

    http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=page_disabled

    Not that helpful I know…

    I would suggest that while you try and track down any possibility of getting them back that you go ahead and start rebuilding. If you know some of your more avid fans you can enlist them to spread the word of your new url location.

    If you aren’t currently using shortstack I would start now because then you would still have access to any tabs you created for your page.

    It doesn’t sound like there is any easy way out of this…

    Good luck, and keep us posted!
    Jules

  • @juleswebb @andrea-vahl

    Thank you for your reply.

    This is devastating.

    So, so devastating.

    I have tried every single channel I can, including the above now several times.

    There seems to be no recourse for FB users. This is disturbing to say the least.

    I use FB avidly, and bring together people in a big way, in a positive way with their software and am being shut down. They, are being shut down.

    I had people on there who had walked away from FB and only returned due to my page, the links and information and access to an open platform they enjoyed, I received emails and messages as such which kept me going.

    I made a mistake and did not connect my personal page to the side account. Big mistake. I also didn’t realise that the Art bitch personal page was a problem.

    Urgh, this is stressing me out, I don’t want to start again, it means that people will loose faith in me….so much work.

    AB

  • I empathize with ya @arty 

    The Mom in Me to the frustrated You
    Very very frustrating and you should get your rant on, kick the dirt and throw your fit. Then take a few deep breaths and surrender—let go–accept whatever the deal ends up being and start looking forward to building anew. Just think with all the experience that you now have how much better and smarter you’ll be able to do everything.

    Probably not what you want to hear, but I couldn’t help myself.

    Love to you, Jules

  • @juleswebb

    Thank you. Will try my best…dragging of feet.

    *)

    AB

  • @arty
    I don’t know if this is of any assistance butgo to Mari Smith’s page on facebook and message her. She works closely with facebook and she maybe able to help.
    I know she has resource links on the left hand side of her page too.
    I hope there is some recourse here. It’s an aweful lot of work and time you have invested.

  • Are you connected to Mari Smith?  I had this happen to a client of mine whose Personal Profile and Biz Page I created.  It had only been created 2 weeks before they suddenly disallowed him to access his Profile or Page.  I tried several avenues with FB and all their links for help to no avail.  I recall contacting Mari Smith as I am connected to her in FB, LinkedIn, Twitter and now Google +.  Although she has thousands of fans and is the expert in FB and even has connections in Facebook, she gave me some sound advise about how to get my client back into his account.  I wish I could remember what she recommended at the time – I believe I documented the fix but can’t find it presently.  However, I can provide a Mashable post that I referred to at the time:  http://mashable.com/2011/07/03/reactivate-facebook-account/

  • @dcoville001, @rebeccacohen

    I just wrote Mari an email will see how it goes.

    I also wrote to ‘disabled@facebook.com’ to see how that goes.

    That’s pretty much everything I can do for now. Unless you think of anything else, I will follow up also.

    Thank you for your help.

    If I get my pages back, never again will I only have 1 admin. Never.

    Shish.

    *)

    AB

  • Again – Facebook’s reply to any direct communication urgh….

    Hi,

    Thanks for your email. We’re streamlining how we receive feedback to be able to better assist you. The links below will take you to more information to help you solve and report your problem.

    Common issues

    • Warnings & disabled accounts: https://www.facebook.com/help/?topic=warnings
    Get information about warnings, feature blocks, disabled personal accounts, and disabled business Pages.

    • Security: https://www.facebook.com/help/?topic=security
    Address a hacked or compromised account, report abuse, and learn how to keep your account secure.

    • Trouble accessing your account: https://www.facebook.com/help/?topic=login_and_password
    Get help logging in, signing up, and resetting your password.

    All other issues & information

    If your issue isn’t listed here or you need to find a more specific contact channel, please search the Help Center: https://www.facebook.com/help

    Please note that this is an automated email, and replies to this email will not be read.

    Thanks,
    The Facebook Team

  • I seriously can’t wait for another competitor to enter the market against Facebook, make this easier for everybody/users and more democratic.

    Google plus, whatever I don’t care anything but Facebook. Seriously this is a joke.

    Blergh Facebook.

  • @arty

    you are not alone in your frustrations – i came across this thread in fb help section the other day when doing research on “places” – and was a bit taken aback by how many people needed help (in some cases like you, desperately) and weren’t getting it…  http://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=1925886

    frankly, it makes me think twice about how much effort to put into pages and such when apparently for some users they can be “gone” in the blink of an eye with no response from fb… disconcerting to say the least.

  • @pegsousa

    Here, here. Yep.

    Ridiculous to say the least.

    Especially when you are bringing customers to FB and working with them.

    Where to from here? Well I think I have identified a big fat gap in the FB market which needs to be addressed. The fact that they have opened up ‘subscriptions’ on FB, but not allowed for anything other than ‘personal profiles’ is a problem. I created the Art Bitch personal page to engage with and interact with an arty audience – this means talking to them through the message/invite/and other channels which, they prefer. I tried to migrate to the page but people just wouldn’t have it, especially since the whole subscription thing came in…I was stuck.

    People would more readily subscribe (up to 50 per day) rather than like a page.

    Now I am back to zero and I can’t even let me audience know.

    All it would take it a propper warning system (which i never had), an actual feedback system, and perhaps a temporary re-in-statement for people i such situations in order to let everyone know what is happening instead of the hardline, total annihilation approach without recourse.

     Pretty simple really.

    *)

    AB

  • @arty

    with you all the way on that one. 

    they need some good facebook marketers to get in there and show them how it’s done. ironic, isn’t it?

  • I’ve read that Facebook has one of the lowest customer satisfaction ratings…this is why…

  • so sorry for you…what a nightmare!!! 

     i always  tell folks not to use their personal page for  business…. its  so  rampant  but   against the facebook  rules….was  that the issue?  maybe they are  going to start  enforcing  that rule with the timeline  coming  soon…

    i see the  F   word all over the place on fb…so i  dont see how  the B word  being a  big  factor…

    i would probably  try and  start  a PAGE    with the old name or something  real  close…and  reconnect with your  fans…pages  can work  great… 

    also  i heard once of a place/site/something on the web,, that  let  you see a webpage from the past….  have you  heard of that?  someone  must  know the name of it…ive used it  but   dont know  the name or if it would  work  for you… if  so  you  could  at least  retrieve  lots of  stuff… 

  • @pegsousa @matthewoneill @annfurnivall

    Thanks all, unfortunately all this talk does nothing really, nothing has changed and I am still stuck here in exactly the same position as I started and with no recourse…sigh.

    Yes it is ironic, in the biggest – possible – way.

    Now I have tried contacting FB through the ‘disabled’ email address above and have also contacted ‘Mari’ as suggested, both go nowhere. Mari even went so far as to reply through a generic template trying to push her own books  redirecting me to FB. My goodness.

    No one is accountable, there are no come backs and no one is listening. They just want your business and don’t actually want to hear from you.

    I set up Art Bitch to counter this very thing.

    All of this is too much really. I was disabled while I was in transit last Thursday, almost one week, and have not received any reply from FB or anything suggesting otherwise. Have tried every single form and approach through FB now. Nothing.

    Is this it?

    All I can say is I can’t wait for competition to rock FB’s boat and actually make them look at their product and their consumers and try and make this better – for everyone.

    I am in shock that companies can exist, have a market, engage with you and sell you things but don’t have any way of being contacted. Just amazes me.

    *)

    AB

  • @arty

    no, you are very right – you are still stuck.. BUT, i’m wondering if you could start up an AB2 Page (ABredux) specifically for those who try to go to your Page, and can’t. They may do a search to see if they’re going to the right place and find you that way. tell your story there, and they’ll try to help you build back up quickly I would think. you have a great blog, and perhaps you could create a post re: same there?

    i just saw this, too… incredible!!http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Facebookthere is a growing seed of discontent here and it’s gonna grow pretty quickly – and perhaps you could share your story with a big name industry blog like mashable.com or insidefacebook.com. 

    just goes to show – when we don’t need any help from fb how blissfully unaware we can be of the consequences should we ever be in that position! i appreciate you sharing your story here.

    p.s. these emails were posted in the link i mentioned earlier… the user had no luck with any of them – he wrote multiple times a day, but… in case you haven’t yet reached out to one of these, it may be worth a try.

    appeals+81jr1b1.aearu2k33373q@support.facebook.com
    privacy@facebook.com
    disabled@facebook.com
    info+ecfnvqs.aea62pxeva@support.facebook.com
    abuse@facebook.com
    appeals@facebook.com
    login@facebook.com
    info@facebook.com
    help@facebook.com
    support+yqnrn11@support.facebook.com
    sales-support+33ylq@support.facebook.com
    appeals+81jr1b1.aearu2k333kwi@support.facebook.com
    press@fb.com
    appeals+88vrllg.aeaxhvcu36h3m@support.facebook.com

  • @pegsousa

    Thanks Peg!

    Some great links here, didn’t know about Mashabe or InsideFacebook etc.

    I like your ideas for the AB redux also, clever.

    Thank you for your support.

    I am still wondering what to do next, I mean if I should even bother with this profile, start again, do something different etc…I have created a new page under my personal name and started to edit the ‘info’ section accordingly for now while I am waiting for a response from FB. Which, may never come…how long to wait before re-launch myself and start over is the next question…

    Here is the copy from the info section of the new page un-launched, what do you think>?

    ….

    Ok so for all the lovers out there it seems that our last Art Bitch personal page (and attached fan page) were disabled by Facebook…

    I know right.

    But never fear, we are back and better than ever with our flashy new community page right > here.

    And this page is here to stay – you can bet your boots on it.

    So, post all of your links to both yours, and your friends, pages on the Art Bitch wall, and I will make sure I get around to liking them all (and also picking some out from time to time to share with our greater audience).

    Go.

    As you can see, I am having to start all over again… (and we were doing such a great job weren’t we) but am up to the task. I will work, and work, and work on this until the arty world is a better place…

    *)

    Phew.

    Look forward to seeing your projects up there.

    Oh and if you are not a fan of Facebook, there will be a web-page coming soon.

    Let the wonderful thing that is creative exchange begin.

    Yours,

    AB

    Art Bitch is also on Twitter, Tumblr, LinkedIn, and contactable at the following email address:

    emailmesomethingartythen@gmail.com

    Please forward all media releases, and or information relating to arts events and happenings, to the email address above.

    And yes I also love getting messages telling me how super I am. All day every day. Love them.

    https://twitter.com/#!/ArtBitchAust
    http://anotherartbitchblog.tumblr.com/
    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/art-bitch/45/a5/3ab

    ….

    Spiel from our last (shut down) page.

    Art Bitch is a social media platform dedicated to supporting artists from all over the world – in any discipline.

    Interacting and engaging with an international audience of up to, and over, 8000 people daily (and growing), Art Bitch broadcasts arts and cultural content, shares artists projects and ideas, and generates discussion giving something back to the arts.

    Art Bitch encourages open dialogue and cross-collaboration between artists and fellow creatives, and is a place for artists to share, and get involved.

    Connecting people to projects.

    Enjoy! And thank you for being a part of this – our art community.

    AB

  • Oh Girl! It’s like the stages of grief, isn’t it?  Sorry you are going through this.

  • OK listen… did you add any other admin to the page?

    If you did… the page is safe.

    NOTE: If you own a page, try to add at least one other admin to it, in case this ever happens to you!

    When it comes to getting a user revived from facebook, their general answer is “it cant be done”, however, I know that it can “technically” be done, but the prefer not to do it.  So, getting the user profile back may be near impossible…… but, getting the page back, is possible.  Usually, when they delete a page, they deactivate it (they dont delete it).

  • @arty

    love it! you have a nice way with words. you know, i think you should go back for your peeps. and lesson learned: let your new website/blog be your HUB, your shining star – and let these wacky, volatile social media channels guide your fans to the starlight. think of the sm channels as short daily jaunts, teasers, and tidbits – the readymades, whereas your website/blog will be the archived year long journey – the masterpiece. 

    also, it would be a great idea to start collectin’ emails if you haven’t yet… so that when weird things happen (and they no doubt will again on occasion) you’ll have a direct line of contact to your most enthusiastic supporters. i’m guessin they’re already out there looking for you! make sure they can find you!! :)

  • @vincentedwards 
    that’s a nice piece of advice, thanks for sharing.

  • @arty I have the name of an ex-Facebook employee who helps people get through the system.  Jack  480-389-9076.  It is worth a call

  • @abigailgorton Thank you!

    @vincentedwards First part – No, as I mentioned, I was the only admin, otherwise we wouldn’t be having this conversation and I would be happy chappy. Second part – How s the question?

    @pegsousa Thanks so much! This is good advice, I will start to file emails properly, so far all this has just been a bit of fun really, and yes I do some of their emails floating around but the whole email thing might take some time etc. Also I have to invite them (vi email) from a ‘personal page’ don’t I? I dunno but the whole Facebook page thing is very restrictive – part of the reason why I liked the personal page and kept it. Anyways…will investigate.

    @juleswebb You’re sweet.

    @chrissamichelle Thank you! I am in Australia, is there a special way to call this number from here perhaps?

    *)

    AB

  • @arty
    @chrissamichelle

    Skype perhaps?

  • @juleswebb @chrissamichelle

    Yes please! Alternatively if you could forward me Jack’s Skype username I will request him.

    *)

    AB

  • Just reading this now. For someone like me who manages a few pages professionally, and more on a social/entrepreneurial level, this is very very scary indeed.

    The only thing I can suggest is that this ‘Social Media Examiner’ network become a voice of the industry where we can band together or ‘lobby’ the big social networks when stuff like this happens. This would have to be something to put to the founder.

    At the moment, social media is not regulated nor are there any standard codes of conduct. Not to say that regulation is required, but when stuff like this happen, people like Art have nowhere to go.

    But the reality is one of us will most likely have the same problem down the track.

    I have a Linkedin Group with 4,000+ members, and for me it is a constant thought if Linkedin change something. Over the past 4 years, I have spent hundreds of hours (If not more) moderating, responding and promoting the list.

  • It is unfortunate when things like this happen, but the facebook rules do clearly state that a personal profile must be in the same of an actual person.  Normally facebook do send a warning.   You can keep asking them to restate you, but you will need to have your personal page in your own name, and link that back to your business page.   Very very sad when this happens, but I try and tell clients all the time the risks they take building up a fan base through a personal page.   The rules are there to try and stop spamming as personal profiles are not designed for business.    As others have said Mari Smith may be able to help, but you need to be saying to facebook that you understand you have accidently broken the rules and that you will not commence another personal profile under anything other than your actual name.

  • @jomarreyes @fionalucas

    Yes it is scary and hopefully forums like this help drive social change.

    And yes it is technically my fault, by as I was saying earlier, Art Bitch needed to come from a personal page first. The way Art Bitch uses the software and more importantly engages with its audience is through utilising all of the features of a personal page like messaging, seeing their personal feeds/work, responding to invitations etc. People also prefer personal pages and once I had 5000 friends and FB opened the subscription option there was no way I was able to tell people to move across to the ‘business page’. I tried.

    So, what I am saying is that yes I was wrong in the sense that I created a ‘fictional’ profile, but there was no other way to do this and I was actually quite creative with my approach and so through doing this have highlighted what I consider a hole in the FB software. Blah, blah this could go on. I know my reasons and believe in them.

    People were very happy with AB right up until FB took it down without warning and without recourse.

    Mari Smith was contacted and all she did was try and sell me her book and re-direct me to FB so no, don’t go to Mari Smith.

    I had asked the question of personal vs fan pages in this forum before and not many had flagged this issue then. Perhaps if nothing else this is a good conversation for people to see in order to move towards a safer social networking strategy.

    *)

    AB


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