Some people support the niche, while others don’t because they don’t know any better. But the fact sits there.

• There’s no argument that it contains far less ingredients.
• Non-existant, “death” rate compared to it’s competitor (thousands a day).
• One of the biggest tobacco companies are in on the niche now.

I’m posting, because, I’ve finally established something that can have a serious impact. Something that I would absolutely love some help with.

I’m not afraid to say I’m new, but I’m definitely not dumb

For this section of the “Facebook Club” I’m really hoping that there are some of you, that see the potential behind what I do, and the “word” that I strive to share to the public. We’re all here for marketing purposes. Technically, we can’t make it with out networking, or help from one another.

I’m not very sure how to reach out, and ask, so this is going to be a sub-par attempt haha

Is there anyone that’d be willing to network with us (ECCR) to get the word out about our facebook …and quite possibly our website?

Of course it’s not something that you can just slap on your facebook wall, but I’m sure that someone, somewhere has an idea how they could share or help in this area.

Let me know your thoughts?

Contact me for more information. I’d love to hear from you.

Links? Wanna know more?

Website: http://www.ElectronicCigaretteConsumerReviews.com

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/electroniccigaretteconsumerreviews

Contact me?

You can contact here:

Skype: riddle_lo

E-mail: Raymond@electroniccigaretteconsumerreviews.com (copy and paste lol)

Just a small disclaimer, I know I could have written a book, but…I didn’t want to waste anyone’s time. And I really didn’t want to just make this a huge post about “me”. More just a little bit of a pitch of the idea, and ask for help.

Thanks,

Raymond

Hi @riddlelo,

I think you should make your question more simple in order to get some good tips. What is exactly that you need help for?

If it is Facebook oriented, this is the right place.If it is business oriented, you should go with direct questions to the Small Business Club where I think you will get better feedback.

Anyways..I’m more than happy to help. 

Max.

Ok, let me jump in here too!  I agree with @maximiliano-garcia and @andrea-vahl in that, ‘what are you asking for?’    Now for a few more of my thoughts:

#1:  Communicating with a Dragon Fly just doesn’t cut it for me.  Facebook is all about being personal.  When someone uses an object for an avatar – I can’t connect personally.  You’re a stay-at-home dad so I know you’ve got personality!  Also, quitting smoking is a personal issue, you’ve got to join them at a personal level.

#2:  Using the term ‘controversial’ is an excellent hook!  Thanks for that tip because it works to get people to click to look.  But once in here I see an advertisement of sorts.

#3:  There is also nothing personal about your Facebook page.  Are you a former smoker? Do you know how difficult it is to quit smoking?  Have you lost people, friends & family because of smoking?  People need to relate to you and your product.

#4: Also, adding your website link to your Facebook page will encourage people to click over to your website and possibly get some click-throughs.  Do any of those products have ‘samples’ or ‘trials’ – if so, share the information.

Okay, I’ll quit here.  Just wanted to provide a little food for thought.

@maximiliano-garcia  What is exactly that you need help for?

Honestly, I’m not even sure of that. ^_^ But if I had an idea, I’d say I’m looking for tips to expand our “facebook fanbase”.

This particular niche, isn’t just something that people are seeking out. It’s something you have to throw it to and if they catch it they’ll stick to it. It’s a matter of choice. 

It’s definitely Facebook orientated. I don’t know how to reach out to people for their “likes” & “shares” to spread the word.

My “simple” question: How can I reach out to more people on Facebook than I already have? What is the best route? What ideas do you or anyone have for that matter, have that could give the page a boost?

-Raymond

@andrea-vahl “it sounds like you are hoping that someone will promote your product.”

There is no “product” – I think you may have not actually looked into what I’m saying, maybe you didn’t visit the site? I’m not sure. But there is definitely no product that I’m trying to sell. More like…I’m trying to raise awareness. Awareness, that the products that are being sold in gas stations, are putting a horrible taste in peoples mouths, because they don’t know any better. <–what I’m trying to prevent.

I’m an advocate for electronic cigarettes. I’ve spent well over $3,000 in products to review, web design, and much more, just putting together, what I have. Now…I need to get it out in front of the public’s eye.

You said: “also seems a bit one sided.” 

Well, it sort of is. If “maybe” someone here was working on the same niche, it wouldn’t be, but there is a wide range of products out there that you can “network” with other people to promote. But I’m not promoting. I’m not selling. I’m referring people to real, brutally honest reviews, to help them make a better buying decision. I’m not sure if I completely understood what you meant by what you said about being one sided. However, I do know that if there had been a place out there on the web that I’d have known about before buying my first e-cigs, that would have told me if they were any good,  I would LOVED to know about it before I wasted $100 on a P.O.S <– sorry. I’m sure you if interested in them, would prefer the same. And that’s what I represent. A consumers (for the consumers) website.

You asked: “Have ads worked for you?”

No. I have yet, to find an ad network that would promote this particular niche.

You also said: “It looks like you have some good interaction on your page but are those your customers?”

Yes, I have “some” interaction. But no they are not my customers. I’m a well known person, and most of those people know me, as well as support my cause and decide to share/like what I post in hopes that it’ll help the public.

You asked: “Are there other pages like yours?”

Yes, but they are competitors, and nasty ones at that. They don’t want to promote this type of site, because it’ll bring financial ruin to their bank accounts. They get paid by certain companies to rank products in certain positions. I do it by free will and actually testing the products. The whole point. To give honest reviews, so the people know what product is worth their money. There are WAY to many people mis-leading people right now. I wouldn’t care if I made a dime from my site, although yes, I earn commissions, but the fact remains. They are honest reviews. I’m not pulling a scheme, and saying “here’s the best product” hurry….buy it….no, I’m saying “this product works well, but there’s a less expensive one over there, that trumps this one, in almost every area.”  ‘Nuff said. Ultimate conclusion – I can’t network with other people on facebook that are solely using facebook to SELL a product, earn a commission, and pocket some money.

WOW! You’ve got some pretty good questions

Last one: “Are you posting on other like-minded pages where your potential customers are hanging out?”

Yes. And no. Some consider it spam, while others say “I’ve tried them, but they were nasty” and they won’t even consider even “look” at the website, because they’ve got a bad taste in their mouth. Which is what makes this hard. Those people with a bad taste….will most likely never quit smoking tobacco cigarettes. All because someone somewhere, put together a really crappy product. To make a quick buck. My question….if I burned you with a lighter, are you going to let me burn you again? No. And neither will this audience/crowd/market.

Thanks for the questions, and input.

Sorry for the rant, and run-on sentences. It’s difficult to do punctuation with an iPhone ^_^

- Raymond

@hollywade – WOW!!

Your post was a gold mine. Thank you so much for putting your time and effort into that post. Seriously, invaluable information. Thank you!!

@hollywade said  “We also use sponsored stories which I find work really well. I think Facebook ads in general are a waste of money for most people, but sponsored stories are good because they target friends of fans you already have, and the friends are more likely to be interested in what you have.”

This is almost exactly what kind of help I was looking for.

There are just so many people out there that are ranting and raving that they have reached success, and done so much, and they are here, or there, to help, but they don’t disclose information like that. That was genuine, and I respect that. Above and beyond great post! Feel free to post more!! lol

-Raymond

@melowout – thank you – seriously. My business partner and I spent 4 months testing different ecigs, writing reviews, creating videos, and designing the website. We are actually revamping it yet again, after finding a few quirks that were not fond of. It was a lot of work. Thank you for your kind words Back on subject….You ask why I call it controversial? Well it’s a bit if both, and I’m glad you say it the way you did. Shows you’ve got an “idea” of what’s going on.Controversial between smokers and non smokers because the non smokers don’t see the benefits behind ecigs, and often argue over something they know almost next to nothing about. Example would be Nicotine Addiction. Non smokers will often rebel against smoking period. Yet the ecig doesn’t emit any carbon monoxide, odor, or actual “smoke” but when it comes to the bar scene or a public market place, they will frown upon ecig usage because to them your still “smoking” and 9 times outta 10 they are against smoking period. This they will try and stop you at any cost. Telling mangers of establishments they are offended and what not. Then ecig users get hell for using the tobacco alternative, yada yada, yada I’m sure you get the point.Next, you have a battle between ecig users and tobacco smokers. Some tobacco smokers, frankly don’t care at all about their health, and when approached by someone using an ecig, sometimes things will escalate dependent in the persons views or interactions with the devices. They’ll make remarks to an individual about ecigs not being safer than regular cigs. Which is definitely and undoubtedly a no brainier argument. Seeing that ecigs contain 4 main ingredients as apposed to the 4,000+ ingredients often found in tobacco cigs. C’mon….I could argue it all day and night til the next morning and beyond. But most people who smoke tobacco cigs only speak like this because they are lacking the knowledge of the ecig. Sometimes even saying “you’ll die sooner” smoking that ecig, than I smoking tobacco cigs. Why? Because there is a lot of misunderstanding. Again…lack of knowledge about the product. Then discouraging the person using it. What they don’t know or understand, is which ever way you try to put it, ecigs are far safer than tobacco cigs. The controversy here is that tobacco smokers think that the ecig is a hoax and they don’t know any better. They would though if they’d do their research, not everyone does that though sadly . So instead they shun users.I don’t know if much of this made sense or not. But I do know that it’s 2 a.m here and my eyelids are forcing themselves shut. Ill be back tomorrow.-Raymond

@melowout “ I don’t necessarily agree with all of your statements”

See? Controversial Hahaha

@melowout – I think my business partner thought your post was spam, I just asked him if he’d gotten any posts, and said he deleted one. ^_^ Sorry, bout that.