How do you build real community? (18 posts)

  • One of the advantages of social media is it allows us to stay connected to people who might otherwise only think about us when they need to purchase or when they see our ads (or if we have huge budgets, when they visit the stadium named after us :) . But I see that people have a limited capacity for being meaningfully involved in various communities (offline or online).

    I wonder how you are using Facebook (and other social tools) to build a real community for your business? Is that even your goal? 

    Please share.

  • I think that community building should be the goal for any business that wants to stay in business. I try to employ practices from “The Thanks You Economy” (by Gary Vaynerchuk), focusing on building genuine connections. My favorite way to start relationship-building is by asking questions. It doesn’t have to be about my particular brand or product…in fact, most times it’s not. It can be sports, current events, cooking, hobbies, or anything really. Talk to people about what they care about; genuinely care about them; and they will care about you (and/or your brand) in return.

  • Thanks for the comment @blake-jamieson. I agree that all businesses need a community-building plan. 

    I think questions are a good way to start conversations and even relationships. True friendships move to a level of mutual exchange (questions, answers, probing discussions, etc…). While most of our fans don’t want to be our best friends, and that’s probably not our goal, how do you move from acquaintances to friends as a brand? Are you able to do that in the public arena of social media, or do you move them in to private groups?

  • Interesting discussion @phil-mershon and @blake-jamieson.

    We are just beginning to build traffic and likes for our Facebook page. For over a year we have been hosting webinars with our experts and taking live questions.  Recently we have seen an increase in questions so that we can’t answer them all within the last 15 minutes of our one hour broadcast.  So for our next webinar (usually once a month), we plan to try to bring the conversation to Facebook.

    Yes, @Phil, I agree the fans don’t want to be best friends.  And @Blake, I think you’re right, that people engage when we discuss what touches them either professional or personally.  We have found that people like asking the experts questions.  And sometimes, we have questions in reserve to jump start the discussions. 

    Would you say you have had interesting conversations with your Facebook fans or communities? 

  • @phil-mershon  Great topic!  I think creating our communities is the secret to our success with social media.  I did not understand this for the first year I was here, but once I realized how important my fans really were to me, I found that everything changed!  

    For me, this began with showing my fans how to use their posts to start “talking” to each other instead of only showing what they had to offer as a service or product. I started experimenting with them (they were willing….) and created a report that took a year to develop.  This is it, for those who would like to see the results  How to Use Your Comments to Get Your Fans to Respond, or Share What You Have to Offer   

    The results speak for themselves.  Many of our fans have continued using this process and have become the “Movers and Shakers” of their niches.  I have also had very good results and my business pages continue to grow in ways that I would never have imagined.

    It is really our communities that make us succeed.  Together, we make a difference for each other.

    Randi 

  • Thanks to @deblynch and @randithompson (great article BTW)

    Great additions to this conversation. I think you are both showing how important it is to make this conversational and not promotional. We all get turned off at cocktail parties when we meet the schmooze who just wants to hand you a business card and sell you his latest gizmo. I love talking with people who show genuine interest in me. Conversely, I find people love talking to me when I show genuine interest. It’s a real turnoff, however, when they walk away when they realize I don’t necessarily want to buy what they have or I can’t help them get where they want to go.

    The question, then, is how to extend cocktail discussions about sports, politics, cars, dolls, clothes or whatever people care about into real relationships (albeit virtual, although its far better when there is a face-to-face component, but that’s a different question).

    What have you all done?

  • @phil-mershon  Great comments Phil!  I am fairly new to the whole Social Media thing, but when I started I wanted to focus solely on the relationship figuring that if someone I connected with was interested in a business relationship, they would let me know.  I use my Facebook page to post industry regulatory news, mainstream news stories that related to background checks, and fun infographics and commentary on what is going on both in and even out of the industry.  

    I have also connected with people on this forum and LinkedIn to get ideas and find answers to my questions (thanks all!).

    A “hard sell” using Social Media, to me, is counter productive.  Even though most of our ultimate goals are to grow our business, in my opinion this medium is not for the “hit you over the head” sell.

  • Just ran across this article that has a different take on the matter.  Thought it might be of interest to you posters here!

    http://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/basic-social-media-marketing-mistake-everyone-makes.html

  • @kimkline That’s an interesting read from Jeff Haden. I’m not sure everyone uses social media the way he suggests. But I do think we make decisions about our friendships based around likes and interests. 

    Does anyone else find it interesting to see the FB ads showing which of your friends like certain brands? I’m always surprised to see some of my friends liking various companies. I’ve never reached out to ask them “why”, but I’ve been tempted in some cases.

    That aside, I agree that you can’t do hard sells on social. You also can’t be continuously promoting.

    @randithompson mentioned the 80/20 rule and i think it’s more like 90/10 on social – 90% of your content should be about your fans interests and building community through engaging conversation and less than 10% should be promotional. I’ve made the mistake of shutting down a page’s engagement by being completed self-promotional. 

  • @phil-mershon The thing that struck me with the Jeff Haden article was exactly what you mentioned!  I find that I think twice about “liking” something personally knowing that my friends will see it!  So why wouldn’t this apply to how others would feel about “liking” my page?  Not sure if I will change focus much because of this, but I still found it fascinating!

  • @phil-mershon   For me, a community is very important.  I like getting to know my fans and watching them evolve.  Since I have always loved what I do for my business, this is second nature for me.  I really do care about my fans, and they know it.  

    My question would be if for those who do not love what they are doing.  You know, the ones who chose this field because of the potential.  If they do not really have a passion, or care about who comes to their pages, does this give them a different approach? 

    Randi

  • @phil-mershon  i dont get the  90/10  thing , to me  what im  passionate about is  what my  fans are passionate about…thats why they  bother with my page…..   they  want to hear about my latest finds, my junk, my  projects,,,,its about   our  store  but   about them  too  at the same time….our page and our   fans ideas  are about the same….i really think they would   like to se  a  nice  big  pile of some  interesting   inventory rather   than   a cute picture of  something  else……..they prove this over and over on my page..i want, and  think    my page sometimes is   a   strong  community  for  my  subject……. kindred  spirits….we are kind of in it  together….

  • @randithompson  I think you have to truly love what you are doing to both be successful and satisfied (at least I do!).  I think believing in the service I provide will resonate with my clients and community.  I try to convey this through my posts.  The fact is that I am a b2b business, so while I post about things directly related to my service (background checks) I also post things that are of interest to small business owners in general.  In this way I show great interest in both my field and what is of concern or will help my community.

  •   Ann @annfurnivall  LOL!  Sounds  like you are already doing the 90/10 thing!  We share what our fans like to see.  Since we both love what we do, we share what we love and our fans like it.  I have found that business is not fun for most people to talk about, yet, I can combine it with quotes and photos and they look at what they are doing differently.

    What we were talking about would be the people who are selling their products all the time without that passion and care that you have.  You have probably noticed them on the newsfeeds. 

    @kimkline is doing the same thing.  We market from our hearts. Not everyone does, and those are usually the people who are spamming their pages and the newsfeeds with ad after ad.

    Randi

  • Great discussion @kimkline @randithompson and @annfurnival

    Passion certainly makes a big difference in the kind of community we build.

    Disclaimer: I had no idea that SME was posting twice about community after I started this thread. I’d rather call it serendipitous or providential. :)

    Here’s my question. I find in real life communities that people become more engaged when they have ownership through shared tasks or roles. Do you find that true in your virtual communities? If so, how have you given ownership or invited more active participation?

  • @phil-mershon, im  not sure about this for us….we are more of a  pleasure and g et away ,if i  can  give them eye candy  that seems to  be  enough ….

     ….i have tried  tho,.by  encouraging   customers to put their projects   on  our  page……  so  far it isnt  geting  much   response…

    …. also  thinking about a  community  pinterest page for projects and  invite all my  fans to show their  projects  there….i would like to   hear   more ideas on this… 

    ….i like it  when they talk to each other  on  our page…..

  • @annfurnivall, I can see that it might not work in all cases. Community’s serve different purposes in people’s minds. For example, there are places I go to inspired or to laugh and I have not personal engagement with those sites. If they asked me to pay, I probably would look elsewhere. If they asked me to sign up for a newsletter, I might do it if I liked what I was seeing. 

    You’re doing well to know your audience.

    I like the Pinterest idea. People who look to you for “eye candy” might also be willing to share theirs with others in your community.

    How have you encouraged folks to talk with each other and not just to you?

  • @phil-mershon its  usually  spontaneous…like  today…a  person commented and then her  friend  said  lets go together…..most of our  fans  are actual  customers, who keep up    on  facebook  ….    http://www.facebook.com/greenoakantiques

    for us  the inspiring  is  a  BIG  part of the  eventual selling  ….  and  pinterest  fillls  that too…

    my  deeper  goal is to  be a  source  and  go to place for them….. it seems easier on pinterest than  facebook….because of  the lay out of pinterest….if  they   want to se  birdhouses or   tin or   room settings   they can  findit  so much  easier on pinterest….where  facebook  seems to  be  more about   right now….today, what i showed this morning….and thats  good too…my thing is local,  but maybe you serve  some ocal  clients too….its a  different thng….i  dont need their  emails…. i  get that when they come to the store..we have an email list  with over 4000 on it…we are into  data and  connecting ….


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