Facebook Guest Expert: John Haydon discussing Facebook traffic and Likes (17 posts)

  • Hi everyone!  We have another fantastic guest expert this week for you!  I’m happy to have John Haydon, author of Facebook Marketing for Dummies and one of our speakers at the Facebook Success Summit.  

    This week we’ll be talking about Facebook traffic and getting more Likes.  How can we grow our Facebook community?  Welcome @johnhaydon

  • Hi John,

    One of the key areas I see small business struggle with is that 50-500 fan segment.

    Many find it pretty easy to get 40 or 50 likes from their friends, family, associates etc but often they are not interested in the business other than to support their friend or relative.

    Then everything stops and nothing happens and 2 months later the page hasn’t been updated in 3 weeks and we have lost another small business to social media!

    My question is, what do you suggest in this situation and what’s the best way to fly through this difficult segment of likes?

    One issue i see is that they may have a base of 50 fans to build on but that number in reality is more likely 0-10 as the majority just don’t care beyond liking it and helping a relative / friend out so often tactics using those 50 will fail badly as they aren’t really there!

    So do you go straight to fb ads from here or can you please recommend some other techniques to get going for real!

    Thanks

    Scott

  • what  do  you  suggest  for  brick and mortar  retail  business?  

      i love  facebook and   am  trying to use it  the  best i can…..heres my page    http://www.facebook.com/greenoakantiques

  • Scott and Ann,

    The biggest mistake I see with most small businesses on Facebook is that they lack a plan. Stalling fan growth is just a symptom of a bigger problem.

    There are certainly a lot of tactics that will help a business get through a Facebook slump. But without a plan, any gain will only be temporary.

    There are three fundamental pillars that make up a successful strategy on Facebook:

    1. Brand:  The more a business can articulate and refine who they really are, the better they will be at publishing content on Facebook that makes sense for their business goals.
    2. Audience:  The better a business understands their audience, the easier it will be to publish content that they will like, comment on, and share.
    3. Message: Messaging is nothing more then a two-way conversation between a business and their audience. A refined and articulated brand and audience naturally leads to effective messaging (content) that works for both the business and the fans.
    It’s also important to evaluate current marketing assets. The idea here is to think about the areas where a business can leverage attention and/or eyeballs.

    For example, a business that lacks an e-mail list or a huge presence on social media might have tons of foot traffic in their store! How can this business create a strategy that leverages this asset (foot traffic)?

    Make sense?

    John

  • thanks john….  i really like your  leveraging   point….we have  defilitely done that with our  foot traffic /email  and  facebook……and its  worked   great and together..our  growth never stalled…

    ..now im   big into pinterest with lots of  followers   and  dont quite see how to   get it in the loop   better…

  • Hey @johnhaydon,Thanks for being here. I appreciate your points above.

    How do you think small businesses should budget for building their Facebook presence? In other words, break down the investment of time (people), advertising, and the creation of assets (apps, graphics, content, etc…).

  • Hello everyone. I am new to the clubs and made a post a couple days ago asking for help in the “If your new, get started here” discussion and have not received a single response to my questions. So I am now asking here since this seems to be one of the more popular discussions.
    Can anyone give me a new perspective on our Facebook page and posts to help me determine where or what the reasoning would be that we are not getting the results we are looking for out of Facebook?

  • Hi Richard!

    I just went to check your page and the first thing you may want to do is correct the link… The link on your profile to your ‘Facebook Page’ did not work (maybe you forgot the http://). So, I used the link to your personal profile to find your page (and Liked it for you also!).

    I think your page looks good. What are the results you are seeking which you aren’t getting?

    The only suggestion I have it that I see you are participating in a lot of Like Exchanges on your wall comments and this can lead to distorted analytics. Try to gain followers with real interest in your business. Have you tried Facebook’s ‘Deals’ option? =)

    @ccateringc

  • Heather:
         I have been participating in ladders for a few days just to increase numbers but that has only added 200 fans/likers. The results I am looking for is more interaction and what I consider a conversion, be it attending and participating in my events, visiting our website, getting more comments and posts on the wall/timeline.
         As far as my link goes I will go check it now and see if I can get it fixed. Thank you for letting me know.

  • Thank you so much for the information! I’d love to hear what you suggest to people looking to provide a bit of fun without requiring it.. I’m able to successfully engage people for business reasons, however I’m turning into a completely boring girl.. There’s plenty of fun to be had… I have no idea how to turn my engagement FUN for a bit without losing fans.. my last attempt annoyed a large percentage of people :O

    I’m social media illustrator / designer, I provide personal & professional branding solutions. You can find my facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/tinkdesigns I look forward to any insight you can provide!

  • @phil-mershon - Budgeting time and resources is best done once a plan is developed. That said, it may be hard to get an idea about what’s required ($$ and time) if a business is brand new. Best to assume that time needs to be spent every day learning about your fans, curating content, posting and replying to fans. Also, I always recommend having a discretionary budget for promoting posts that have a higher virality than normal.

    @ccateringc Looks like Heather’s been very helpful! 

    @tink-petruzziello What does fun mean to you?

  • hi  @johnhaydon long time no see

  • Hi @johnhaydon, i think the majority of pages have fans in the 500 range and most of them probably rely extensively on organic growth which from my experience is very slow and frustrating. For most new pages, advertising budget may be an issue which is why majority of them rely heavily on organic growth. In this context, if you can only give one advice for increasing real quality ‘likes’ what would that be ? 

  • @louisteoh - See my earlier reply in this thread.

  • @johnhaydon john, could  you  talk  more about  leveraging,?  some of  the ways  that you  have seen work……

    my personal interest is   how  to   use pinterest  better…i have   lots of  fans  there   …i already  put my website on pictures from the store that i pin,, put my boards on my facebook page once in a while,i have  my pin  button on  all my   cyber places….,and  try to target the same ideas on  pinterest that i  do on all my other places…  ,  …i dont want to over  commercialize my pinterest…i have a   big  following…. i want to be  subtle!!!…

  • @johnhaydon Thanks so much for your advice. I am learning a lot!

  • @annfurnivall - Ann,  here’s what I’d recommend for Pinterest:

    • Be super clear about your brand, and super clear about who your people are.
    • Follow the users in your niche that have a lot of followers.
    • Spend time leaving thoughtful comments on their pins, and repin the ones you love the most on your boards.
    • Post different content on interest then what you’re sharing on Facebook,  but occasionally cross promote.
    • Most of the content you’ll see on Pinterest are repins, so ake sure your pins are truly worth repining!
    • Use Photoshop (or pixlr.com)  to add your websites URL at the bottom of every image that you pin.
    That’s all I’ve got for now…
    John


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