Facebook Guest Expert: Brian Carter discussing Facebook Advertising (25 posts)

  • Hi All!  I’m very excited to announce our Guest Expert this week, Brian Carter!  He is the author of The Like Economy:  How Businesses Make Money with Facebook and co-author of Facebook Marketing:  Leveraging Facebook’s Features For Your Marketing Campaigns.   @briancarter is also one of our speakers at the upcoming Facebook Success Summit!
    This week we are going to talk about Facebook Advertising.  Ask Brian your questions about Sponsored Posts, Promoted Posts, and more.  Welcome Brian!

  • Hey guys, feel free to add your Facebook advertising questions! :-)

  • Welcome @briancarter!  I’ll start the ball rolling with a question about click prices.  What are some of your best tips for getting the click prices down?  Does it help to run one type of ad versus another – a sponsored post vs traditional Facebook Ad?  

  • Cost per click goes down if you choose less competitive targeting, or get a higher clickthrough rate or both. So you want to test multiple ways to target your prospects, and multiple creatives (images and text). 

    Sometimes I use optim.al to do multivariate creative testing, which means testing 6 images combined with 2 or 3 text options, for 12 or 18 ads. The more ads you create and test, the better your results will be.

    With targeting, you can try precise interests vs. topic interests (the ones with # signs) vs. categories… workplaces, job titles as interests, etc.

    Sponsored posts have a very different function (get more post exposure and engagement, make sure all fans see them, etc.) from fan-growth ads for web traffic ads, so I usually think of them separately.

  • @briancarter I have a simple question… is it better to invest in google adwords or facebook ads and why?

  • Great question, and awesome answer: it depends.

    If you haven’t tried AdWords keywords that indicate buying intent for your product or service, e.g. “buy trek mountain bike”, you should do that. If your CPC and conversion rate and profit per sale match up, you get positive ROI, and you should get those sales.

    If that math didn’t work for you, OR you are selling something people don’t know about enough yet to search for, OR even if AdWords worked but you can’t get enough people in the door from the keywords that have positive ROI, you should consider Facebook ads. First, FB ads will increase the size of the top of your funnel, even if they later buy after clicking an AdWords ad or organic listing. Second, no matter what your AdWords ROI is, if you want to maintain and increase mindshare in your niche, FB is unmatched for awareness and branding at the lowest possible CPM.

  • We are using FB ads to increase “likes” with some success. What would be your recommendation for obtaining likes from ads, (run many different versions or stick to a couple)?

  • Often when you get affordable fans from ads, it’s by targeting something they already like and connecting your brand to that interest. Chances are your prospects are more complicated than just one interest, so you’ll need more than one.

    For example, when I worked on fans for the Cowboys & Aliens movie, we targeted people who liked the star actors, people who liked sci fi, and people who liked westerns. Your prospect is probably multi-dimensional too, so use multiple interests.

    Over time, since we usually run these ads to people who aren’t fans yet, the pool of people who aren’t fans dwindles, and the ones who haven’t clicked like yet may not be interested, and they stay uninterested, so your CTR goes down and cost per fan goes up. You need to either vary the creative so the non-responders will respond, or try new targeting (interests/topics/categories/workplace/etc) to fish in different ponds.

  • Hi @briancarter! Do you use Power Editor or Ads Manager to create and monitor your ad campaigns? Why? Thanks!

  • WHY the heck are my promoted page posts getting likes from people on the other side of the globe… as a local business facebook page – shouldnt facebook promote my LOCAL business to the LOCAL community… last I looked China, India, and Russia arent really my LOCAL NYC community.

  • Heather, usually I use the ads manager, but when I need to create a lot of new ads manually, I use power editor.

    DaDa, what countries are you targeting? Are you using the ads manager interface? And if not, if you’re just doing promoted post to your fans, are some of your fans from those other countries? Regardless, note that sometimes because of organic shares etc. people from all over may see your post.

  • Thanks!! One more. Which do you prefer: CPC, CPM, or Optimized CPM? What’s your strategy in choosing which to opt for? Do you mainly stick to just one? Or do you vary and tweak according to an ad’s results?

  • Hi brian, Has the suggested price per click increased recently (Since share prices went down) I manage about 20 clients Facebook Advertising campaigns here in Ireland, and in the last couple of weeks every one of the CPC seem to have gone up by 25 – 33%.

  • Ronan, 
    My first question there is always: are you continually creating new content in the ads? Most FB ads will stop performing well after a certain point. So it could just be that ad fatigue syndrome and you need new creative. As I said above with fan growth, sometimes entire targeting groups will no longer respond. You may not be able to fish in the same pond forever.

    I often hear people say that their FB costs have gone up, and they certainly have overall since 2 years ago, for example, but if it’s a sudden and dramatic cost increase, either your CTR has decreased, or a whole bunch of new competitors are targeting the same way as you, and may be bidding high as well. You can experiment with lower bids or creative that gets a higher CTR.

    My experience has been that global ad prices rise slower than you’re describing.

  • First, to avoid confusion- we’re going to be talking about CPC and CPM bidding here, which is different from the *actual* CPC or CPM of your ads.

    Heather, my answer to that has changed over time and also depends on your goal. 18 months ago, I would have done CPC bidding to find high CTR ads and then switch them to CPM bidding. But then CPM  bidding stopped working as well, and I went to all CPC bidding. I’ve heard rumors of CPM bidding performing well again for high CTR ads, recently, but haven’t tested it yet. Generally, I wouldn’t do new ads with CPM bidding unless you care a lot more about awareness than clicks. But even with CPC bidding, you get a lot of impressions.

  • Hi, @briancarter. Thank you for all your help so far. Recently, I have gotten this error message when posting an offer on Facebook: “There was a problem boosting your post”. Have you seen this before? I see the offer on my news feed and it posts on the page without any problem. I’ve attached an image of the message.

    Thanks!

  • James, you’re welcome! I haven’t seen it- but I don’t post Facebook Offers, and that’s a separate thing (as in these:  https://www.facebook.com/help/offers). 

    Or do you mean using an ad or promoted post to promote an “offer”?

  • Yes, I am referring to the offers specified in the help page you linked to. I’m not referring to a promoted post. The error shows up once I click “post” on the offer. I’ve received great response for my clients using offers but this message is new.   @andrea-vahl, any ideas?
    P.S. Why don’t you post offers? 

  • That is strange, @jamesalonso – I haven’t posted an offer in a couple weeks and I haven’t seen that. 

    We don’t post offers at SME because we aren’t categorized as a local business.  I’ve changed some of my pages to be Local just to get the offers but had some issues with people being confused on how to claim them.  I recently saw someone else doing it well for a non-local business where they included the link in the offer itself to claim it. 
    No ideas on how to fix that – sounds like a strange bug!

  • @andrea-vahl Hmm, it must be a strange bug if you guys don’t have an answer…lol. It’s odd because the post still goes out and people are still claiming it more or less at the same rate as other offers that I haven’t gotten that message for. I guess I’ll have to deal with the fact that Facebook doesn’t want to “boost” anything for me. Figures…lol. Thanks again and to you  @briancarter, as well. Have a great weekend.

  • James, Facebook is pretty buggy on the whole, because they encourage all their engineers to make changes live. That’s one reason for a lot of temporary bugs. I personally don’t mind and think that unreliability 2% of the time is worth all the other good stuff. The downside is just that there’s no one to contact if you’re not spending $10k/month on ads.

  • I hear you. :/

  • I have started with facebook ads and its working pretty good! In a month time FB became our nr. 1 traffic source, and the online conversion is surprisingly high! 

    But it is also doing my head in….too much data…I have 13 target countries right now and am testing multiple ads per country and business unit. Eventually it will be more countries….a LOT more.

    This is what I am measuring every week. facebook side: period, campaign, ad, ctr, impressions, clicks, cpc, cpm, spent. Site side: visits, number of pages visited, time visited, % new visitors, % bounce, conversion rate, target value per visit, skype requests, completed sales, email request, call-me-back request, lease transaction

    Two questions:1. Is there a article or ebook or tool with a good structure for creating & monitoring and evaluating ads? I have a lot of target groups in different countries, and it starting to take too much of my time. Because they are all different, it seems that i can not have one measure for succes. I basically have to judge every ad seperately on different metrics. Also, we haven an offline sales team, so for instance if at google analytics there is no conversion but people visit a lot of pages, I cant delete that ad, because it might have led to sales by phone or shop.2. Should I also look at unique CTR instead of just CTR? (please say no ;) )

  • Great questions- 1. My preference is to export to excel and use sorting and filtering to look at them.2. The ideal for tracking would be to tag the ads, send them into a CRM and track those people through the sale that way- are your salepeople using a CRM? Yes, it’s an issue when people come in by phone, and sales may ask the prospect and enter that manually, but you won’t be able to track everything for sure. 

    I find there’s a balance between the trackable KPI’s and your sense of quality- if your targeting makes sense and your ads help to qualify prospects, then looking at cost per lead and lead velocity may be the best you can do.

  • Is there a way to target AND in interest for Facebook targeting?

    Facebook Ads has worked amazingly for us for

    1. Products that are needed but the ones people don’t search like T-Shirts, Pre-School education etc
    2. B2B companies to build a community
    3. For Links (Thats a secret masala :) )
    Facebook Ads have not worked for:
    1. When we need to mass reach (FB could not give us 200 registrations a day, it could give only 20 to 30, for rest we had to go to content network) – Traders related
    2. Not work for clients who don’t believe in it :)
    Thanks,Aji issac


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