10% of your audience seeing your page now with new FB rules. (15 posts)

  • I’ve seen a post going around over the last week saying “if you want people to ‘see’ your page you need to get them to click the ‘special interests’ link on your page (under the like button).

    I am almost totally over Facebook now. I can’t be bothered anymore.

    Years of doing this, writing on forums, talking, writing, talking, working, working, hundreds and hundreds of hours spent on this and now FB in it”s all mighty big brother tyrannical who gives a —- approach to it’s customers have taken away our ability to ‘use’ FB and interact with our audience even more.

    Why?

    Anyone else getting this? 

    Is this right? 10% now? OMG. If you were ever to use those letters like that OMG now is the time i am going to use them. 

    10% unless I advertise or force my lovely followers into now adding me to another list to see me even though they have already clicked the like button??

    Wha?

    Seriously, what?

    FB pages are over. 

  • im way over  10% on  most posts…….i can still easily get to  30% of people seeing this…..  if i dont use pictures…..

    @sheridanmills so i think  your  numbers are  way off….but i know  they are floating around….

    still i  am also having a  terrible  drop in  views  and  dont    know whats the  best way to deal with it….hoping  for  some  good plots   to   come  into the  conversations….

    Also I like your point about not wanting to ask your fans to do even more to read your posts,ditto

  • It depends on your amount of fans.. the more you get the lower your percentage is.

    I have 30,000.. so I have a difficult time even getting 10%.. more like 8%ish on most posts (at least my status updates.. photo is only around 2-5%).  If I get A LOT of likes or comments I can get around 20%.. but that is rare.

  • @sheridanmills

    this post has a good graph that show about what you may max out at as far as view vs fan #’s http://www.simplyzesty.com/facebook/how-massive-changes-to-newsfeed-are-screwing-business-pages-on-facebook/

  • @jenettapenner    …thanks  for   that link,,,its  about the clearest i have  seen  so  far….at least  they didnt tell us  to improve our  content…..still didnt have much advice for us…

    my numbers  fit into their   graph  about perfectly…

    fyi   i did  get to 900  views on an album post  yesterday…out of  3600   fans….it  was  the  kind of post that usually would have  gotten a few  hundred       more tho, just a few weeks  ago…kind of  encouraging  tho……

    still waiting  for   the  bloggers/leaders/experts     to come up  with  some  best  practices for us….. right now it seems like  we are all in the same  boat….just  trying to  absorb  whats happened….  …  ….

  • @jenettapenner @annfurnivall

    Yep we’re screwed. Sorry for profanities but this is the bottom line here esp reading that article.

    That article by the way was the best one I have read by FAR, most honest and respectable reflection on the current situation thank you so much for sharing, thank goodness for people like you. Still, the news in this article is very disheartening.

    If I knew this was the way of the future for FB I wouldn’t have spent literally hundreds and thousands of hours developing both my, and other arts organisations/businesses pages, I would have just made them a website.

    FB has no future at this point for business pages, I can’t wait for a competitor to come into the market i will even go and work for them to develop their software so we can blow FB out of this market. I HATE them right now, and challenge anyone on this. You can’t just change the rules of the game to suit and totally screw over all of your customer base, over, and over. 

    I’ve spent, probably like everyone here, at least 2-3 hours a day every day for the last 2 years on this, working, building, changing, adapting to FB’s new rules as they have changed and now this. That is at over 100 hours a week – over 10,000 hours I have spent on the software, way more than any any other only for FB to make these changes and basically screw us over to get more money for themselves (like they need it).

    If I were being paid $20 an hour that’s $200,000 dollars worth of work right there.

    x the billions of people out there like us that have done this kind of work, spent this time, invested in this for the benefit of others, brands, businesses, projects etc.

    Argh.

    Thank you for great article again though.

    And btw, I have over 7500 followers on my page (one of them alone).

    Then there are the others.

  • @sheridanmills

    I agree with you a lot.

    I do feel that we have to be able to adapt and I guess we can look at it as a couple years of easy traffic and move on.

    BUT

    The part that makes me mad is that I feel set up.. FB made it’s self an integral part of people’s lives and took us a long with that. Sure I still have been working on content and getting people to join my mailing list.. but why would readers worry about getting my email or visiting the site as a habit when they can get everything rolled into one place at FB?  And we herded them right to it..like lemmings..lol. And as small business I can’t afford to invest more than a few hundred a month promoting posts..

    The prob is.. that  much of those readers are lost.  If they never see posts they just forget.. and move on.  So there is no way to wrangle them back.  It’s all about starting fresh..

  • @jenettapenner

    What do you propose? Starting fresh how exactly?

    We;ve already invested thousands of hours of our time and money, we have an established audience and fan base following us (or trying to) who are now getting lost in the changes that FB have implemented.

    I’m not paying money to support people on FB – which is what my page does. 

    The only 2 options I can see here to skip around this issue are:

    Set up a personal page and link to your business page (even though FB community standards do not allow this) as your personal page DOES see and interact with all of your friends and can direct them to the business page.

    Set up a website and forget about FB limiting your time spent on the face and dedicating that time to website content management, analytics, mail-outs, and quality time with your dog. I have a Whippet.

    All I got.

  • oh.. I don’t mean on FB.. just in general with getting traffic
    @sheridanmills

  • @sheridanmills I’m curious here and gotta ask: you say you manage different FB pages, so I presume it’s for different clients or brands. Do these brands have a blog? Do they actively send out newsletters to a growing database?

    The reason I ask is because I’ve been saying for the past 2-3 years that brands ought to invest on their owned media before they do so on shared meda, i.e. Facebook. Or at least evenly. Yet, because of the FB buzz, many seem to ditch blogs, newsletters, onsite FAQ or other owned media just to be on the social media bandwagon. And we’re seeing how this is backfiring these days with EdgeRank doing its own thing…

    As I said, just curious… ;-)

  • @fredericgonzalo

    Yep some do, some don’t and are entirely social media based and therefore in big trouble. 

    My personal view on all this has always been to reach as many people as you can. This is why I always try and use a combination of as many online media streams as I can and agree with what you have said above. However, I was also curious about this particular problem with FB and so put it out there in this forum and now really struggling to accept that this is happening with FB as it basically means the end for me. 

    I’m going to spend some time now training myself up in WP again and all associated CMS, mail-outs, database’s etc to combat this stupid, stupid thing that FB have done so as i can continue to reach my audience and enrich their arty lives with awesome content, comps, promo’s, and related materials. FB won’t let me do this apparently unless I pay.

    What a joke, so angry. So, so angry. 

    Please – some techy person out there, go and design an awesome super platform that kicks FB’s butt so I can come on over and do what i do.

    Thank you. 

  • i hate to be the oddball  …but i  just got a connection over  40%  on a text post  on my facebook page….. so even tho its   changed and  getting  harder  its  not  totally  dire….i doubt if my experience is  totally unique…im not  sure what happened on the post…i asked  for likes…and  got  100  and  quite a  bit of  conversation…i hate asking for likes…also i  told them where to go to see  my  album post….. a couple  of   fans  said  they hadnt heard form me for a long time…ikkk

    my post was  talking about the   fb  change and my   views were reported  at   1800  with a   teeny amount viral  and  none paid out of  3700  fans………so maybe   a page like mine, mainly organic, and   grown out of  known people   can  be  very different  than the  2 %–10%   reach  you are talking about…..those numbers  arent  everyones…….or maybe the social media arent   considering    places like mine….???? brick and mortar, not huge…. organic…there are tons of us out here using  facebook,,,outside the   online  bubble…

    if i  could only get  10%  i would have to  give it up…. 

    @sheridanmills

  • @sheridanmills I totally hear you on this one. It’s very frustrating to see how FB is basically gaming their platform so that the more fans you get, the less EdgeRank lets posts reach fans. In other words, the bigger you get, or the more successful you get, the more you will have to spend in order to reach fans you used to be able to reach with good old content, contests, photos and videos.

    Hopefully, there will be new techniques to circumvent this new reality. Thus, let’s keep our eyes and ears open, in particular in this networking group ;-)

    Cheers,
    Frederic

  • @annfurnivall 

    I think we are talking about different things here.

    Just to clarify, I’m not talking about the percentages you see on individual posts you have on your wall or any other, I am talking about the general figure being put out there at the moment of only 10% if your like base actually seeing your posts – all together – now with the recent FB changes. 

    I have seen people posting a message over and over saying that only 10% of people are now seeing your fan page (without paying for advertising etc) and that you must ‘get them to click the add to special interested button’ under the like button on any page. 

    Make sense?

    I have noticed the difference and am now basically about to give up as no one is seeing my page despite posting quality posts, different times of the day, generating discussion, etc, etc, etc.

     @fredericgonzalo

    Great points, right now I can see nothing that combats this. Hence, my woe is me and gloomy gloom realisations above. 

  • @sheridanmills i guess we are on  different subjects….im  talking about that number at the  bottom of my post……… mine have  really gone down  since  sept  21……. but im pretty sure im still being  seen  by  way over  10%  of my  fans… 

    im not  very tekky and  i dont understand  what you are saying…….ive heard  the  10%  figure a lot  also…… but  it  doesnt  seem  accurate  on  my page at all…

    facebook  sure likes to work   in secret  …hard  to   really   guess whats going on… 


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