whats your opinion? stand along blog or blogpage on your website? (19 posts)

  • me, im a firm believer of a stand along blog.

    sure its a little extra expense but its also something that can become an asset down the track.  it also allows you broaden your content focus allowing you to writing more freely.  doing it this way can also encourage other people to contribute.

    a good example is a mortgage broker.  having a blog strictly on mortgage broking is pretty darn boring.  but take a step back and start a stand alone blog on first home buying (which is still relevant to mortgage broking) and now youve got an excellent platform to start writing and generating great quality content.

    plus ive heard stories where google have penalised some sites that have a blogpage on their webpage that gets consistently updated.  (this was after the fact however).

    what are your thoughts?  stand alone blog or blogpage on your existing site?

  • Hi Dexter

    It really depends. I generally say to keep your blog closely linked to your website as it will drive people to where they need to be in order to purchase your product/service. 

    I do understand what you mean about boxing yourself in on topics however, but even in your example you could easily cover other topics and have the blog embedded into your website. 

    I am not sure where you heard about the Google penalization, but it may have been for other reasons as I have never heard of Google penalizing a website because they generated more content – unless it was duplicated or spammy. 

    As I said, it really depends on the purpose of your blog. But if your goal is to drive people to buy what you are offering, then I would suggest having it closely bound to your site. 

    Cheers!

  • @dextereugenio

    I would say “I strongly disagree” Your Blog is better off as part of your main site.  If you’re concerned about posts on a whole being boring then come up with some marketing strategy to create a category or section to write something that isn’t boring and maybe even a little fun. This in turn will drive more people to your business. 

    If your online presence is a spider then the website is the body and facebook, twitter, linkedin, google+, even flickr are the legs.  Even articles that you publish elsewhere can be still be associated with your website.

    Good Luck!
    Jules

  • thanks for your opinions @juleswebb and @russellallert

    what i find with many sites is that the owners get “told” they need a blog and so add another page.  they may then choose to blog on it and it never gets read as people land on the home page.

    ive viewed client sites dozens of times over and ive looked over some that have had blogs for months.

    the google hit on the blog side i think comes from keyword stuffing.  a page with 10 blogs posts all repeating your keywords multiple times is sure to cause issues.  (but dont quote me im not an seo expert)

    :)

  • Sounds like the sites you are talking about are not creating a blog correctly.

  • I agree with @russellallert

  • @dextereugenio   Sounds like those siet owners went into it with high (false) expectations of how easy it would be to write regularly and of how many people would flock to the blog and post comments. 6 unanswered posts in and they got discouraged. As a web developer, I am reaching the point where I advise against setting up a blog or  FB profile for a client unless they promise to sign up for coaching / join a blogging circle. Why not? Because the odds that they will get discouraged and stop doing it are sky high and when they do they get guilty and then they look for someone to blame and they often settle on the web developer. Like a kid not doing homework. I don’t care if the coaching is with me or someone else.

  • @dextereugenio Hi Dexter.  I haven’t heard of sites getting penalized by Google for a blog unless they are abusing something like over pinging, scraping content at a high volume, or otherwise duplicating content.

    There are two ways to look at it.  Having a blog off of your main domain makes it look more like a blog and less like a business which can be good for attracting and keeping loyal visitors.  But having a blog on your main domain can mean better search value because your site will have fresh content for visitors and search bots to come to regularly.  Plus you’re likely to get links to your blog posts (assuming they are high quality) and if the blog is on your main domain, that means those links will help boost your main domain’s rankings in search.

  • We started out with both of our current blogs as stand alone and accessible directly from our website. We’ve also linked specific blogs to other sites where appropriate, like Amazon. If you’re an author, Amazon lets you link one blog directly to your Author Page and it shows up within 24 hours, key words and phrases appropriately highlighted. Couldn’t hurt — and attracts people more than one way.

  • Hi Dexter!

    Since first time home buying and mortgages are similar, what about writing about both on your blog and use “categories” to begin organizing the different types of articles/content on your blog.

    Additionally, you could create a page for “first time home buying” that is more static. Like a 10 item to-do list when going to purchase a new home for the first time. Then you can link to that page in your posts regarding “first time home buying”. 

    @dextereugenio

  • @dextereugenio @russellallert @kristi-hines @blogsbyheather -great discussion everyone, thanks for starting this thread, Dexter, I also think it should be closely tied to the website which helps build your brand.

  • @abigailgortoni agree with you there.  100%.  but thats another thread! 

    @blogsbyheather hence why a stand alone blog is more flexible (in my opinion).  if your business is very niche, wanting to start a blog about it could be difficult due to the content aspect being difficult.  what youre saying would work (and i understand it) but for the avg small business owner, its gonna be tough.

    @everyoneelse :) i think both arguments are valid and have their merits.  me personally, im a blogger at heart and so prefer the flexibility to have a stand alone site with which i can do whatever with (change themes, invite guest posters, have cool widgets).  as such i have some high expectations with company blogs and are almost always let down.  (most either never update, arent setup right, or cant be found unless i troll their website).

  • We just started a new website and have put our blog now right on it as a tab. As @blogsbyheather said why not categorize your blogs and that’s exactly what we do. We’ve only just begun blogging on it and are still working out the kinks but we have 3 main categories, promotions, news, and information.

  • @hayleymonsellGood luck with the new blog, Hayley! Let me know if you have any questions about blogging or on the promotional side.

    @deairbyI agree, Dea, great discussion! :)

    Cheers!
    Russ

  • When I first started one of my websites, I set up an “outside blog”, and used it as a source for inbound links to jump start the site.  Later I incorporated that blog into the site to help “bulk up” the topic.  There are now more blog posts than web pages, and it doesn’t seem to have hurt it.  If anything, those blog posts (which nearly all link to an interior page), have helped the spiders crawl the site better.  So I guess my recommendation is:  Do both.

  • Good discussion topic @dextereugenio

    If you have a standalone blog and it is popular and attracts traffic, then any links that appear on that blog to your mortgage broker site will pass along page rank and happy Google juice. But you’ll always be managing two separate spaces so if you get +1s on the blog, then you’ll also be working to get +1s on the website whereas if these two properties were the same, then you’d be collectively amassing more relevancy in google. 

    My advice to new clients who don’t blog but plan to, is to have the blog and website together. For clients who’ve been blogging separately but don’t have a lot of traffic or audience, then I also say to combine the two. 

    But for someone in your case with a blog with attention and following and historical presence, keep it separate and work on the cross promotion aspects. 

    Google shouldn’t penalize a site that is updated often. In your example above, I agree with the others that the “blog” must not have been installed properly or was otherwise creating duplicate content issues (whether intentional or not). 

    Cheers,Monique

  • Well put Monique. I have been using a blog and social media to create links to sites that I have created for clients. It seems to work pretty well. I agree with your comments about duplicate content. Both approaches have their merits and quality content is ultimately the important thing.

  • @dextereugenio

    I hear what you’re saying Dexter. Sounds like you prefer having a “personal” blog, rather than a business blog.

    I would do that, but also make sure you have fresh content on your business site also. Blogs are perfect platforms for doing that and don’t require much, if you just sit down, schedule out what you need for a year’s worth of drip feeding.

    If you don’t want to write, no prob. You can find some excellent writers on iWriter.com, if you research a bit and look at writers’ reviews. Make sure you pick one that has a lot of details in the thank you’s they get in their reviews. For $5 an article, you can keep fresh content in there once a week for a year for $260. I wrote a series for a real estate / mortgage entity outside the USA like that. When you buy it all at once, you can either pick your writer… or throw it out there, let them submit articles to you, and just pick the good ones. But do it all at once and you’ll be set for the year. You get a blog for your business site, and you get to write fun stuff for your personal blog. Win-win.

    Just a thought…

    Robin Carlisle

  • @dextereugenio @russellallert @kristi-hines @blogsbyheather @hayleymonsell  @bplanmaster @boxcarmarketing @ron-ashworth @atlantarobin  Thanks to everyone who has posted!   I am getting ready to start another business website and my Blog must have a strong presence, but I will have a lot of eCommerce stuff on there.  Sometimes I feel like I am swimming in Jello trying to design this site! 


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