Any Ethical Experience With AutoBlog Software & Tools? Recommendations? (21 posts)

Topic tags: tools
  • I must admit I’m balancing on the fence tonight… with a Clickbank order form facing me down… for the last few hours. I want to buy a product that will make automation my friend in writing and creating and monetizing blogs — some Adsense focused, some affiliate focused. Being able to upload and post video content would be a huge plus, but not required.

    Years ago, I used AutoBlog Samurai strictly to help automate blog post submissions that I authored to various blogs. (There were so many typos in the software and instructions that I had a hard time focusing. Too many typos and poor grammar make me dizzy). Never scraped content or used the other features, but I need something where I can pull up existing articles on the internet in one frame, while writing my article side by side or below it in another frame. I like to copy-paste quotes, author names, and product info whenever possible. I can’t do any of that on my Mac easily.

    My automation products have all been on a PC. Now I use a Mac and am looking for something to speed things up. Since I have no budget for this, free would be nice, but less than $30.00 at the most.

    I came across several while looking online tonight. One was by Douglas Williams called Ultimate Income Booster, which seemed to be a lot like AutoBlog Samurai, but more professional. It claims voodoo traffic powers, like they all do, but the interface I saw seemed simple and powerful enough to do what I want.

    It didn’t let me see the post submission interface or its monetization functions. I don’t want something that simply scrapes articles from other websites and posts them elsewhere automatically. I want to use it as a writing aid, with the ability to schedule and post my own writing to my various blogs — cheaply for now. I’ve been using paperclips and chewing gum. But I need something less sticky.

    Anyone know anything about that product? Or can you tell me what you use or would like to use? Or what you wouldn’t be caught dead using?

    Things like Traffic Geyser are out of my budget for now. I need a one-time pay product for $30-40 or less or free. I don’t know anything about TubeMogel or Friendfinder (?), but heard they were good for scheduling posts. But don’t know if they have the kind of keyword searching, scraping, writing, posting interface I need.

    Thanks in advance for your input here. That Clickbank order form is starting to glare at me, but I just don’t feel right about buying something that I can’t take a peeky-boo at before buying.

  • @atlantarobin I have never used an auto-blogging software and personally wouldn’t do so as the stuff I’ve seen hasn’t impressed me much. 

    If you’re looking for a way to post at a certain time, you can set a publish time on a Wordpress site. 

    As for content/help with your posts I would personally go to a service such as http://www.iwriter.com (a 300 word article is only a couple bucks) and have someone write an article for you.  I use this as a guideline and then re-write in my own words to put the exact spin on it (for me it’s easier to re-write than to get started sometimes). 

  • @dakotalocal Yeah, I’m a born editor, too. Rather completely rewrite something  and make it my own than start from scratch, too. I don’t buy articles from iWriter yet, but have been writing there daily as a little game I play with myself to help speed up my production time and still put out high quality articles. It has helped me tremendously.

    I had a lucrative contract last Spring that fell through, but I was going to have to produce voluminous amounts of content for a medical professional — a year’s worth of articles and videos in just two months. It got me thinking about how my own perfectionist high standards slow me down and force me to subcontract out to meet deadlines.

    So I started playing my little daily speed/quality game on iWriter and it has truly doubled my output capacity. I have better systems and habits in place now. (But still looking for more peripheral task automation as I described above). Now I’m ready for large volume clients again — this time without outsourcing.

    So, hopefully you weren’t one of my guinea pigs on iWriter. I’d hate to think you had to rewrite me. Tee hee.

  • @atlantarobin I’m pretty sure I wasn’t one of the guinea pigs…I had a couple writers who “wrote” (term used very loosely) for me and then I found someone who did well. 

  • Can’t help but feel the true meaning of a blog has been lost somewhere along the line here.  Surely the platform wasn’t meant for people to plug products night and day?  Nor was it to churn out poorly written content in an attempt to game the search engines.  So it’s an enormous no from me on any automation tools for blogging.  Blogging should come from your own brain.

  • @adigaskell
    For good or bad, things have changed. Trust me, the people that really invented the Internet never imagined their technology being used to purvey porn or being used for cyber-terrorism, etc.. Just like the Internet started out just as tool to transmit academic information more easily and effectively, blogs have evolved to become more than online diaries and journals for SERP purposes; especially since browsers somehow lack the muscles or attention spans to move beyond the first couple of pages of search results.

  • I’m not advocating blogging being used for some teenage diary, but for me they should at least exhibit some attempt at thought leadership rather than some frankly black hat/spammy promotional stuff.  I’ve no doubt that spammier things go on, but we here in this group should surely aspire to something greater?  The examiner blog is a purveyor of best practice and for me therefore things like auto-blogging should not even darken its pages.

  • @adigaskell I empathize and agree with the sentiment of what you’re saying, Adi. At first, I must admit I wasn’t quite sure where you were coming from. I hope you don’t mind, but I took the liberty of reading your musings and a bit of your heart on your blog to better understand what you meant. I’m so glad I took that time.

    Simply put, I loved your blog. I admire your unique ability to ever so lightly embellish the mundane with such delicate cerebral flourishings. All at once I had to remind myself whether I was reading passages from a novel or from a simple product review — and of a YouTube Slam Jam, no less. I envy that transformative style and work on improving my own daily.

    I especially liked the passage where, although you weren’t fond of the juvenile gamification of cutesy animal videos and the like, you saw a positive use for gamifying idea generation to prevent seniors in a firm from squelching creativity generated from the rest of the company’s workers — a much more meritocratic process. Hope I spelled that right. Obviously, I’m paraphrasing here and from hours old memory at that.

    So please forgive this essay, but here’s the landscape from whence I come that perhaps your own writings can best illustrate for me. In my request above, I want specific automated tools — like a computer, instead of a pen; like a Mac, instead of an Apple IIe; like a database, instead of index cards — that can help me free up more brain time for idea generation, while getting repetitive physical, non-cerebral, and peripheral tasks completed faster. Right now, those mundane tasks have declared seniority over my brain, take too much of my time, make me lose focus during the writing process, and squelch my creativity. Obviously, I need a more meritocratic system that supports creativity when writing.

    I’ve been working on a self-systemizing experiment for months now, freeing much brain time for narrative creation and improving flow-through threads in the most mundane of assignments, all in order to engage readers, no matter the writing task. So now I’m looking for automated tools to help me with something very specific.

    For example, instead of relying on memory or unreliable cut and paste methods for copying your exact phrases to quote from your blog, I need a computerized tool that would lay your blog page with the YouTube Slam article side by side with this reply window on Social Media Examiner’s site. That way I wouldn’t have to waste time going back and forth copying and pasting. On a Mac, that is a time drag, very slow. In this case, my copy/paste function screwed up and I just resorted to substandard paraphrasing from memory.

    On a daily basis, having an automated blog tool would free up more time and make my quotes and paraphrasing faster and much more accurate. That would also allow me to reference more relevant sources and give readers more of what they want and need from me.

    When I first started writing, all I had was a pen and paper. I was a lousy writer. Then came the jammed up QWERTY keys designed to slow me down and the long loud waits in front of AP wires clacking out the world’s news in mere dribbles. The early 80′s brought me the first known Mac among all my peers and I spent years raking in the money that automation and desktop publishing afforded me at that time. The 90′s brought me autism, a 24/7 unpaid invisible job, and the realization of how precious every second in life really is.

    Thank God for automation. Through the years, it most certainly helped my brain think more clearly, helped improve the quality of my writing enormously, and vastly cut down on the time it took me to write, edit, and submit a piece of writing for approval. It also helped me and my family survive autism.

    So today I’m just asking for a little help finding a blogging tool that works on a Mac — a brain assistant, just another writing assistant, if you will. And if it will run on Apple’s upcoming hydrogen battery, then that would be ever so nice, too.

    So, Adi, in all good spirits, I promise I won’t use it for search engine gamification. Honest Abe, I won’t! But please, pretty please, I’d appreciate your support in the search for this little old lady’s most wanted little old blog automation tool. From my heart to yours, my simple little request comes with a big old lol, my new eloquent friend.

  • It’s not exactly what you need, but Zemanta is a nice plug-in for finding related content, be it from blogs, photos or news.  It uses the content you’re writing about to suggest other related content that you can then embed into your article with a single click.

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/zemanta/ is the url for Wordpress.


  • @adigaskell Thanks for the link. Zemanta looks like a useful plug-in, similar to something I use to us. I’ll try that.

  • @atlantarobin The only time I have seen ethical use of autoblogging software (I’m thinking of the kind that essentially rips a full RSS feed onto another site and enters the new updates as new posts) is when it a blog’s sole purpose is to collect different blogs on a specific topic in one place.  The ethical side of the site I’m thinking of is they actually approached all of the bloggers beforehand and asked if they could use their content to do this, and they included special bio information before each post about the original author of the content.  

  • @kristi-hines
    Thanks for that image, Kristi. That’s helping me visualize exactly what I want to express more clearly.

    Imagine an interface where an RSS feed delivers published articles containing your keywords in a window at the top half of your screen on demand. At the bottom half of your screen is a large area to type and edit your 100% original article. You use the top half to bring you research, background, sources to interview, quotes, etc., so you can accurately quote sources, copy product information, get author info, etc., all with correct, complete, lawful attribution.

    It’s the interface I’m interested in. I finish writing and editing my story and put it in a feed to post to my blog at a time I want it to post. I then write my next story, using research, background, etc. from feeds in the top of my window, put in a feed to post at a certain time and go on to the next one.

    I understand the term “auto-blog” upsets some people, but I don’t know another name for it. I also know that AutoBlog Samurai was capable of scraping and posting in the unethical manner you described, Kristi, but I never used it for that. I don’t care what others do with it, I care about finding that kind of interface where searching, research retrieval, writing, and posting is all done within the same interface

  • Hey @atlantarobin @dakotalocal @kristi-hines @stewkelly

    From what I’ve read on this thread “auto blogging” to a lot of people seems to fall under the category of submitting new articles automatically to their blogs…

    From what I’ve learned there is a lot more to auto blogging than just submitting new articles from outside sources (and i personally will never “purchase” an article written by someone else, you just never know where they got the content from) … even it they are legit.

    Have you ever thought about auto blogging with social media or building a list? How about an article spinner where you can spin your own article (i personally spin my articles up to 250 times and set my blogs up for a year!)

    Check this out for some real Automated Blogging

    http://www.successin24.com/affiliate/affiliate.php?id=941&group=53


    Hope this provides a little further insight into automation.

    Disclaimer: I may receive some commission if a product is purchased through that link.

  • @louisdagosto I’m not a fan of article spinning.  I’ve seen a few in action, and they never sound legit.   Of course, I have different business goals.  Since I’m a freelance writer, I wouldn’t want someone to stumble across a piece of writing with my name on it that sounded a bit off on quality.  Also, I’m curious how you spin one article 250 times and set up blogs for a year?  Or is there more to it.  

    Also, please use the full URL for your links and not cloaked, Bit.ly URLs.  It’s fine if it is an affiliate link, but let’s make sure everyone knows what site they will be going to if they choose to click on it.  :)

  • @kristi-hines

    Think of it like placing a blog on top of a blog. 

    Step one: write a quality, keyword specific article (keep in mind, i am creating the blog to rank for whatever specific keyword I choose, after I do my market research)

    step two: spin that article (around 250 times), and set the articles up to submit to my blog (every other day or whenever I choose) 

    I am basically giving google what they want..
    Keyword specific blog titles and back-end work, keyword specific articles, new quality content (usually around 40% uniqueness), backlinks.

    My SEO works I rank on the first page of google for some really competitive nitches.

    step 3: place an html page on top of the wordpress header.  The is my call to action, my blog on top of the blog. Placing the html page on top will “bump” down my wordpress blog so you would need to scroll down to find it. When someone clicks on my page, they will see my html document or my call to action that I have created on top of my wordpress blog. 

    Yes thee are risks that they may see the spun articles at the bottom (I push it way down and there are ways to make it disappear completely) and I respect your opinion being a freelance writer.

    Don’t Hate Me For It :)

    The sad truth is, unless you are an avid blogger, nobody is going to read content. I work solely with single call to actions and video content. My leads are legit, I never waste time with blackhat gimmicks or fake services. my call to actions are clear and do well with free traffic and seo.

    My marketing plan in a nutshell:  “this is what I have, this is how you get it”

    Like i said before, If i write up a real nice article, (then spin it), google gets what they want, new content with all my keywords and links set up inside my articles.

    If you would like to know more:

    I hate to put another link in here lol, I feel like Im pushing the limit. If you would like to know more about the article spinner I use send me a message. The article spinner I use was, without a doubt, created for us marketers, The best available on the market.

    Please let me know if you have any questions I tried to keep this as simple as possible but there was a lot to cover.

    Regards,

    Lou

  • Maybe this forum should be named the blackhat blogging forum.  I mean seriously.  The same article re-worded 250 times???  Your actual users must really love you.

  • @louisdagosto I agree with @adigaskell – this is purely about SEO rankings and nothing else.  It can’t make for a great read for visitors if it is all the same article…

  • @adigaskell @kristi-hines

    They never see the articles. They watch my videos.

    I use screen flow and will set up videos on my hosting. Usually watching my computer screen and being able to follow me along is a lot more efficient than reading a “how to” anyway.

    Users are usually trying to reproduce results and create leads for their own business.

    On the other hand… I love working outside of the IM nitch because it allows me to connect customers with products who are looking for a product anyway. Pulling in leads with specific search keywords is what drives free traffic isn’t that the point of SEO lol.

    If I actually had a “written blog” and was trying to pull in readers, I would gather my traffic the same way and create squeeze pages to my blog.

  • You said you were ranking for your keywords based upon these 250 articles, so either people that click on those keywords are reading the articles or you’re employing cloaking to serve different content to Google than you are to users.

    Either way it’s pretty poor form.

  • Back to my original quandry….

    I used to use Market Samurai for keyword research, but something happened and it froze my computer screen every time I used it, so I stopped.

    Well, I fixed it a few days ago, or either it fixed itself, lol… and today I went back to review some of the video training MS had to offer.

    Lo and behold, I rediscovered the Content Finder and Promotion tools there I had used before when searching for content related to my writing subject. Just as I had remembered, it found content related to keywords, gave helpful rating and ranking info for articles, videos and photos using those keywords, and had a writing space you could use to write the articles, then promote or distribute them to different venues, sites, directories, and forums.

    That was my little bit of automation that I had previously found useful, but totally forgot about because of the “freeze” problem.

    So glad I started this forum, and glad for the robust, if diametrically opposed discussion. It’s funny how a difference of opinion can trigger your brain to keep thinking about a subject long passed the point of original interest.

    But the vigorous opinions expressed here kept my brain coming back to this. Bottom line, I now have my bit of automation I needed to help me speed up my writing tasks, thanks to all your input.

    But for the life of me, I still keep reflecting on Adi and Louis’ diametrically opposed views on SEO and automation. I see both viewpoints so well and understand both, from both a writing purist standpoint and that of an internet marketer, as I pursue both sources of income.

    I know Google is fast putting an end to the methods of seo that Louis mentioned, but not for the reasons most would suspect. While Google doesn’t like seo, as they see it as gaming their system, they still put out detailed directions on just how to search engine optimize your sites and pages for Google SERP, so they obviously help perpetuate the practice, as it is, indeed, a necessity to survive and thrive in Google SERPs.

    But what’s trumping everything, and will do so even more in the future, is the rapidly developing, even overwhelming need to provide relevant information to smart phone mobile users, whose numbers will dwarf desktop and laptop users if they haven’t already.

    The need for relevant, timely geo-targeted information by this crowd is trumping everything online, including and especially seo-based practices.

    The result is that long, detailed, original, and truly helpful information — the kind that Kristi creates when writing all her articles, many from 6,000 to 10,000 words, on her voluminous unique-content-packed site — are what readers and users want to read and use, so Google is rapidly weeding out the rest, with spun seo articles and thin sites being the first to disappear from search results altogether.

    But on some levels, and for certain needs, the thinner one-topic sites are still needed, though you won’t see them around at all in the next few years, no matter what anyone thinks. I’m thinking this may not be completely good for anyone, even if you don’t like the way they’ve been created.

    Fact is, I know if I’m looking for info on certain products, especially online downloadable products, I don’t want to read volumes from one writer. I want to read short, pithy information from a bunch of sites, and I don’t want to wade through volumes in a big, fat site to do so. It serves my need.

    I’m just sorry that that won’t be available to me in the future. I can forgive all the crappy, spammy junk online, but take away my ability to read a pithy one-pager for my own specific purposes and I truly end up the loser. And I know Google doesn’t want that for me, but it does look like the highly targeted, if not spammy and redundant looking, mega-seo sites will soon disappear, nevertheless.

    Anyway, thank you all for your input here. I always love a rousing and robust discussion!

    Robin Carlisle

    Robin Carlisle

  • Hi Robin,
    I would recommend that you forget auto blogging and anything related to spinning articles.
    Google has this figured out for the most part and you will not get ahead with it. Especially if you are running Adsense on your blog network.

    There are easier ways to do this, hire iwriter to write article if you have too, run the article through copyscape to check for duplicate content issues, then run it through grammarily, if the score is above 80% put it on your blog or syndicate it through a rss feed.
    Auto blogging will just get you flagged by google and de-indexed. Best advice is to avoid it.


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